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Date:      Thu, 27 Oct 2005 20:17:02 +0000
From:      db <db@traceroute.dk>
To:        Jimmy Scott <jimmy@inet-solutions.be>, freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Non-executable stack
Message-ID:  <200510272017.02565.db@traceroute.dk>
In-Reply-To: <20051027195842.GA19013@ada.devbox.be>
References:  <200510270608.51571.db@traceroute.dk> <200510271511.36004.db@traceroute.dk> <20051027195842.GA19013@ada.devbox.be>

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On Thursday 27 October 2005 19:58, you wrote:
> > Ok thanks, but I was looking for a kernel level patch. Btw which ports
> > will break?
>
> I did not keep a list, but as far as I remember, the 'pure-pw' binary
> from pure-ftpd was the last thing that failed. Because it was not
> visible in first place (the port builded fine), I decided the risk of
> breaking things without noticing it was not worth it.

Ok, I was planing on using pure-ftpd.

> I don't mean that it's a bad thing, but it will cost you some time to
> find the bugs, report the bugs and get them fixed. And if you are
> willing to use it in a production environment, you have to fully test
> the software eacht time you are upgrading to be sure things will not
> break. It's also not officially supported as far as I know.

I'm not a kernel hacker and only have access to ia32, so I can't help develop 
or test it, but I hope someone with the right skills and means also think 
it's about time we give the admins and users the option of a non-executable 
stack (and heap). If I can help in any way I will. Maybe my next computer 
will be an AMD64, I think it must be the cheapest of the platforms with 
hardware support for execute and read permission distinction on memory?

Best regards
db


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