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Date:      Wed, 12 Apr 2006 18:45:09 -0400
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        Bob Johnson <fbsdlists@gmail.com>
Cc:        Andy Reitz <reitz@eecs.cwru.edu>, Ashley Moran <work@ashleymoran.me.uk>, Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>, bobo1009@mailtest2.eng.ufl.edu, portmgr@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Wanted: Flash player for <browser_of_choice>....
Message-ID:  <20060412224509.GA32598@xor.obsecurity.org>
In-Reply-To: <54db43990604121520i715fda4j26a8c828ca0c8d22@mail.gmail.com>
References:  <443BB35B.6050801@computer.org> <200604121137.32229.work@ashleymoran.me.uk> <20060412141502.GA39355@beryl.lonsteins.com> <200604121528.14491.work@ashleymoran.me.uk> <Pine.SOL.4.53.0604121409500.3512@cerne.EECS.cwru.edu> <20060412181607.GA24522@xor.obsecurity.org> <54db43990604121520i715fda4j26a8c828ca0c8d22@mail.gmail.com>

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On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 06:20:26PM -0400, Bob Johnson wrote:
> On 4/12/06, Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org> wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 02:11:12PM -0400, Andy Reitz wrote:
> > > On Wed, 12 Apr 2006, Ashley Moran wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wednesday 12 April 2006 15:15, you wrote:
> > > > > I forwarded this license issue to an engineer I know there. His
> > > > > response was positive. We'll have to see how it goes with their
> > > > > management and legal.
> >
> > I lost track of the above email, but keep portmgr@ and the port
> > maintainer in the loop with developments on this front.
> >
>=20
> I submitted a query to Adobe customer support via their web site.  The
> reply I got stated in part:
>=20
> "Please note that Flash Player 8 is not supported in FreeBSD, thus it
> not mentioned on the End User License Agreement that Flash Player can
> download and installed on the operating system.  It is not that the
> web player is prohibited in FreeBSD, but the operating system itself
> is not compatible with Flash Player."
>=20
> I have replied to them to point out that this statement is incorrect,
> that FreeBSD is entirely capable of running Flash Player, but FreeBSD
> users such as I are now prohibited from using Adobe products.  I asked
> them if they want me to stop using it -- it will be interesting to see
> what they say.
>=20
> I also pointed out that if that was not their intent, they should
> consider changing the wording of the EULA.  I think that if everyone
> who is speculating about this on this list were instead to submit
> their requests for clarification (not threats) to Adobe's customer
> support, it might get some attention from Adobe.

Let's just wait to see what they say first, it could be irritating if
dozens of people suddenly start asking the same questions.

Kris


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