Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 11:09:42 -0600 (MDT) From: "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com> To: rwatson@FreeBSD.org Cc: astrodog@gmail.com, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: lockf in installworld -- not a good idea Message-ID: <20060929.110942.1723237142.imp@bsdimp.com> In-Reply-To: <20060929172657.Q74256@fledge.watson.org> References: <2fd864e0609290707t7e7d6e17g61a09ff5aa10ff3f@mail.gmail.com> <20060929.091414.74722768.imp@bsdimp.com> <20060929172657.Q74256@fledge.watson.org>
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In message: <20060929172657.Q74256@fledge.watson.org> Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org> writes: : : On Fri, 29 Sep 2006, Warner Losh wrote: : : >> For what its worth.... I'd go with just stopping support for -j in : >> installworld, even if things are CPU bound. : > : > installworld should *NEVER* be done -j. Ever. That wasn't part of the : > installworld bargin when it was started. There's no point to it at all. : > As such, any support to make it work should be removed with extreme : > prejustice. Why on earth would you want to do installworld -j? : : I wouldn't doubt that it's at least marginally faster, possibly a : bit faster, but I think I come down pretty firmly on the side of : "let's make installworld as simple and reliable as possible" -- : breaking in the middle of installworld can have messy consequences, : and we should minimize the chances of that as much as possible. I tend to agree with that basic philosophy. From other items in the thread, it was clear this came up in the context of build release, which benefits from -j usually. The installworld phase in that should be as robust as possible as well, since otherwise we have issues with the actual release. Unless it is a big win (more than a few percent), I'd imagine the right fix is to the release target to not do a parallel installworld. I know that in the build scripts that I wrote in 3.x days and have ported forward since then I've never done a parallel install, due to it rarely working reliably in that (long) time span... Warner
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