Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 19:33:31 +0100 From: Michael Nottebrock <lofi@freebsd.org> To: Joe Vender <jvender@owensboro.net> Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: pppd crashes, was: kde-freebsd] Question about KPPP on FreeBSD Message-ID: <200702071933.35688.lofi@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <200702071145.57261.jvender@owensboro.net> References: <200702062130.58069.jvender@owensboro.net> <200702070859.28646.lofi@freebsd.org> <200702071145.57261.jvender@owensboro.net>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] On Wednesday, 7. February 2007 18:45, Joe Vender wrote: > On Wednesday 07 February 2007 01:59, Michael Nottebrock wrote: > ... > > > There is https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55785 on record, your > > description sounds more like you're getting a kernel panic in the > > background though (KPPP is a frontend for pppd and the in-kernel ppp > > driver). > > If I want to use KPPP in FreeBSD, do I need to first manually edit any > config files for pppd, and if so, please elaborate, or does creating the > settings in the "Configure" sections of KPPP take care of everything > needed? > > I found this bug report which sounds just like the problem I'm having with > FreeBSD and KPPP. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=i386/98154 I agree, that sounds similar. I've changed the CC to stable@, since that is a better place for pppd/kernel ppp related issues. > Is there any intention to address it? I call on the community (especially those with modems) to take it on. To that end, I've left your motivational speech below intact for everyone's benefit. > IMHO, setting up a dialup connection in FreeBSD via ppp seems like jumping > through hoops, even compared to linux. Personally, I think it's pretty easy - for modem users it usually means just editing four lines in /etc/ppp/ppp.conf (device, phone number, user, password) then typing ppp<return> in a shell, then typing dial<return> and they're online. That's pretty much the same amount of data input and interaction that kppp requires. > I was told on the freebsd-questions > mailing list that KPPP uses pppd, and that pppd is known to be very buggy > and essentially unmaintained in FreeBSD. If this is true, then a very > easy-to-use feature of KDE, namely KPPP for setting up a dialup connection, > is not going to be usable. A lot of users are going to be put off FreeBSD > if they can't use KPPP with a serial modem on dialup. FreeBSD needs a > usable KPPP, and therefore a working and maintained pppd, if it has any > plans to be considered a user-friendly desktop alternative to linux, not to > mention an alternative to Windows. Cheers, -- ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org [-- Attachment #2 --] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBFyht/Xhc68WspdLARAqqaAKCf0NF/jhGSjKh1i2xgJMi9z1/U/wCeOcnp 0uMy9a0vtQrvbcifqh3YWHA= =UzVM -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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