Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 15:16:11 -0400 (EDT) From: doug@safeport.com To: Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= <des@des.no> Cc: Claude Menski <claude.menski@gmail.com>, "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: I like Ubuntu Message-ID: <20070414125712.L73976@fledge.watson.org> In-Reply-To: <86tzvjz2dr.fsf@dwp.des.no> References: <2a4057fc0704131021t60249c62k4107ee6cf9f1fb8f@mail.gmail.com> <86mz1ckqlc.fsf@dwp.des.no> <20070413183656.E73976@fledge.watson.org> <86tzvjz2dr.fsf@dwp.des.no>
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On Sat, 14 Apr 2007, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > doug@safeport.com writes: >> First my experience with [Free]BSD as a server completely mirrors >> Dag-Erling's observation, it [mostly] just works. I started with BSDI >> switching to FreeBSD around 3.5. I think it is also true that >> depending on your hardware a FreeBSD workstation or laptop can be a >> bit of a challenge. > > My issues with FreeBSD as a desktop mostly come from the difficulty of > installing software and keeping it up-to-date: 'pkg_add -r' and > 'portupgrade -aP' simply can't hold a candle to 'apt-get install' and > 'apt-get dist-upgrade'. > > Because of my background, the things that were/are wrong with packages and ports led me to learn much more about FreeBSD. I chose to answer your email not because of any disagreement with what you said, but to offer up the idea that at least in selected instances there might be something to learn from doing this. In my case this included leaning to think in 'Unix', and reaching an understanding with (rather than of) regular expressions, sed, and awk. My workstation/laptop hardware does not really allow the option of building things like KDE and OpenOffice, so I upgrade basically by starting over with packages. I usually can do this in an hour or so. When I first started, I found the differences between BSDI, FreeBSD, and Linux confusing. Now mostly its more of an irritant than having to use my son's mac to watch ESPN videos.
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