Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 22:41:48 +0200 From: "Christopher J. Ruwe" <cjr@cruwe.de> To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: TeXLive merge into FreeBSD ports tree - FreeBSD project idea Message-ID: <20120621224148.36ed4c7e@dijkstra.cruwe.de> In-Reply-To: <20120617060135.GA7986@zim.MIT.EDU> References: <CACsYpVMrR1aDDM5k9t8c%2BLRdnEL5yR761L7D6er0gM=1F9i4ww@mail.gmail.com> <20120530204502.5cab974c@desktop.pc> <20120617060135.GA7986@zim.MIT.EDU>
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--Sig_/hjAXrYF=iPT0aT3.B3p0CXA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 02:01:35 -0400 David Schultz <das@FreeBSD.ORG> wrote: > On Wed, May 30, 2012, Aldis Berjoza wrote: > > On Sat, 26 May 2012 22:45:37 +1200 > > Sam Lin <sam.lin4ml@gmail.com> wrote: > >=20 > > > Hi FreeBSD fellows, > > >=20 > > > Those who are using LaTeX on FreeBSD must know that tetex has been > > > discontinued years ago and that TeXLive is now recommended, > > > however TeXLive has never been merged in the ports tree on > > > FreeBSD and that tetex is still used on FreeBSD ports. Although > > > there have been some "customized" work so that FreeBSD users can > > > install and use TeXLive on FreeBSD machine (for example, > > > http://code.google.com/p/freebsd-texlive/wiki/Installing), this is > > > quite confusing and may still cause conflict on the system side > > > when using or maintaining it. > > >=20 > > > There has also been years of gossips that a Japanese developer > > > Hiroki Sato (hrs@freebsd) has been working on this matter for the > > > last years and therefore the FreeBSD admin panel don't want > > > anyone else to work on this and merge it into the ports tree. > > >=20 > > > I actually contacted Hiroki Sato in the beginning of last year > > > (2011) regarding this, and in his reply he said that there had > > > been several technical issues but most of them had been solved > > > and almost ready to merge into the port tree, and that he was > > > planning to go forward after the 8.2/7.4 releases (one or two > > > weeks later from that time stage) are out. However, more than a > > > year has passed since then and still nothing happened. I tried to > > > contact him several times after that (email, tweet, etc) but > > > haven't heard anything back from him at all. > > >=20 > > > Is TeXLive really going to be merged into the FreeBSD ports tree > > > as Hiroki Sato mentioned previously? Or is this just a myth?? > > >=20 > > > I am now thinking that this should be put into the "FreeBSD > > > Project ideas List" [http://wiki.freebsd.org/IdeasPage]. > > >=20 > > > Regards, > > > Sam > > > > >=20 > > Hey, Sam! > >=20 > > I which TeXLive would be merged in FreeBSD ports. Romain is doing > > great job maintaining it. And it work, And it work now. In fact it > > works for more than a year. >=20 > I have used his TeXLive ports through portshaker for a while. > They work pretty well, but there are some issues due to the fact > that the TeXLive folks have some strange ideas. For one, TeXLive > is split into over 2000 packages, many of which are tiny; the > FreeBSD package system doesn't handle that very well. For another, > TeXLive now has its own (dubious) package manager, tlmgr, which > doesn't play well with other package management systems. >=20 > I'm not a ports committer, but perhaps a good first step to > getting TeXLive working better in FreeBSD is to introduce a > TeTeX vs TeXLive knob in the ports tree so that people don't > wind up accidentally clobber their TeXLive install when TeTex > gets pulled in as a dependency. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" When I was using Linux, my favourite distro was Gentoo. Packages on Gentoo are installed in a fashion very alike to FreeBSD - in fact, Gentoos portage was modeled after FreeBSD ports. In portage, there is a knob package_provided meaning that the package referenced as being provided is installed externally and that portage does not need to resolve said dependancy, as it is already there. I do not know of a similar FreeBSD-construct, but have really wished for something alike to stop the pulling in of the teTeX-tree. Cheers, --=20 Christopher TZ: GMT + 2h --Sig_/hjAXrYF=iPT0aT3.B3p0CXA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJP44cVAAoJEJTIKW/o3iwUYfkQALkzis68OMe61mEuFpvUTb8m Qn0xlrjBFbx+S5cWmRsKUsP4+8oYFG8MYw918jG/dDIoYi3ypHdS4G2wzaxgl+Cr WQCGU1xb1RgdpuyCHbl3RhtmgqBXIL9gV+DVC+/K7dbxuFp+MnfpWgw3EsimnnOe U9h/g67ZWb3hQLBTh31MmMdTrwB9EGhjp6KahmcvJYqYe/+WD7nliACJR/Un5846 Ltl1zA+J5m5IOgd/we+2Zknwz+cv75WSR8hfRr1VlG6fnliAEs1sU+M+wdhPYpLv JDUMr0m9OKVqPbEYfVP+S3k1SbXeKwwUYTs/h+jlUj6ea03dOyKBpv3VQl3crpBf v16UR1V/kl0McZ1YGCLPAs3GBg55TNybruzRYF+n9vjmFnGZjQmuhfZc95NKTGVs O1B2Vq2w/jB3q8mzkY1JgyMD98jlddNx1C8JUP65lC0vsi9ksa92CUS1JxOE7pVU 8O5/gMYIRyOKNbUtoufGVPx7nUv2VmVnRbc9ZcQmqxzZAqakI6j6aabZqbMiI7MC BCqn0TuHIG96NA9zmn0g0VipBqN2Mh21TfWPfwpltOoAx9UrgK2c9Sh6vm2lcsIC Sw9YMeJYbY5546frBfCuVZbkgXXETJg72X24ET9p4E6tx8T4Gu/fznrTBVvx8FoW sL9nULeZFCPpiIV5C+tZ =Fv5I -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/hjAXrYF=iPT0aT3.B3p0CXA--
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