Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 10:19:16 -0800 From: John-Mark Gurney <jmg@funkthat.com> To: Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru> Cc: arch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: removing bdes.. Message-ID: <20150210181916.GY1953@funkthat.com> In-Reply-To: <20150210180906.GI3698@zxy.spb.ru> References: <20150209181502.GF1953@funkthat.com> <20150210151812.GB67127@zxy.spb.ru> <20150210172039.GA1071@reks> <20150210175240.GD67127@zxy.spb.ru> <20150210175852.GV1953@funkthat.com> <20150210180906.GI3698@zxy.spb.ru>
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Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote this message on Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 21:09 +0300:
> On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 09:58:52AM -0800, John-Mark Gurney wrote:
>
> > Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote this message on Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 20:52 +0300:
> > > On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 09:20:39AM -0800, Gleb Kurtsou wrote:
> > >
> > > > On (10/02/2015 18:18), Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Feb 09, 2015 at 10:15:02AM -0800, John-Mark Gurney wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > So, I happen to stuble across bdes recently and think we should remove
> > > > > > it..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm fine w/ making it a port so that people who need it can use it...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Especially considering:
> > > > > > The DES cipher should no longer be considered secure. Please consider
> > > > > > using a more modern alternative.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Though sadly, that comment was added almost 15 years after DES was
> > > > > > brute forced by DEEPCrack.
> > > > >
> > > > > Clear text also insecure. Do you remove all clear text?
> > > >
> > > > This is rather odd argument ;)
> > > >
> > > > I'm all for removing it. openssl provides file encryption for those who
> > > > need it in base.
> > >
> > > 3DES remove too? and how to login users with password in 3DES?
> > > How to migrate old system with 3DES passwords?
> >
> > Please stay on topic, this has nothing to do w/ the proposed removal
> > of the bdes utility..
>
> Ah, bdes utility, sorry.
> But this is only 20K binary and 25K source and 80K documenation.
> And need to update ed(1) (keep 80K documentation?)
See my other comment on lack of maintaining the utility...
> x Prompt for an encryption key which is used in subsequent reads
> and writes. If a newline alone is entered as the key, then
> encryption is turned off. Otherwise, echoing is disabled while a
> key is read. Encryption/decryption is done using the bdes(1)
> algorithm.
It turns out that ed has it's own implementation baked in, so removing
bdes will not effect ed's functionality...
In my search, it looks like I'll take enigma along w/ bdes...
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