Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 20:38:14 +0200 From: Joel Dahl <joel@vnode.se> To: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> Cc: Jonathan Anderson <jonathan@FreeBSD.org>, Tim =?utf-8?Q?=C4=8Cas?= <darkuranium@gmail.com>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UTF-8 by default? Message-ID: <20160720183814.GA77261@ymer.vnode.se> In-Reply-To: <20160720140741.yi7vfgmmqtg6eprx@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> References: <CANd9X8f5wHvdwN_XZ2y0qsiydYyb=NKLXF0k65S0_TiuWHeGKA@mail.gmail.com> <B68D48ED-66CA-4E5B-8ED2-555B397AC73E@FreeBSD.org> <20160720140741.yi7vfgmmqtg6eprx@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net>
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On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 04:07:41PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 10:47:45AM -0230, Jonathan Anderson wrote: > > On 20 Jul 2016, at 9:13, Tim Čas wrote: > > > > > So, without further ado: > > > 1) What are the reasons that UTF-8 isn't the default yet? > > > 2) Would it be possible to make this the default in 11.0? What about > > > 12.0? > > > 3) Assuming an effort is started towards making UTF-8 the default, > > > what changes would be required? > > > > At least according to one of my students (who makes more extensive use of > > i18n than I do), enabling UTF-8 by default is pretty straightforward: > > > > https://github.com/musec/freebsd/wiki/Common-setup#utf-8-support > > the LC_COLLATE=C is not needed anymore with freebsd 11+ > > > > If there's anything missing there, I'd love to hear about it. > > > - unicode support in our old groff is pretty bad, I plan to replace it with > heirloom-doctools which does handle unicode propertly (as far I have tested > at least) I haven't really been paying attention lately so things might have changed, but why can't we just remove groff now? We have mdocml, and for people that really need the groff functionality can just install it or heirloom-doctools from ports. The initial plan was to remove groff after we imported mdocml, but it was never removed and I lost interest, so again, things might have changed since then. -- Joel
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