Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 13:01:59 +0200 From: Lars Engels <lars.engels@0x20.net> To: Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru> Cc: Lars Engels <lars.engels@0x20.net>, Andrea Brancatelli <abrancatelli@schema31.it>, Kubilay Kocak <koobs@freebsd.org>, Erich Dollansky <erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com>, freebsd-stable <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Benchmarks results for FreeBSD 11 Message-ID: <20160823110159.GU18643@e-new.0x20.net> In-Reply-To: <20160822120215.GV22212@zxy.spb.ru> References: <20160819073422.4292997b@X220.alogt.com> <af0fefab-69d7-f0a9-3d6d-4a9891d5a156@FreeBSD.org> <20160821144505.27c0f55d@X220.alogt.com> <827183a944ee4052649c152d65204444@schema31.it> <20160822101423.GF18643@e-new.0x20.net> <20160822120215.GV22212@zxy.spb.ru>
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--hN1XGyM8GoU8K2XL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 03:02:15PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 12:14:23PM +0200, Lars Engels wrote: >=20 > > On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 11:48:46AM +0200, Andrea Brancatelli wrote: > > > Il 2016-08-21 08:45 Erich Dollansky ha scritto: > > >=20 > > > > I am sure that some know of this site: > > > >=20 > > > > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=3Darticle&item=3D2bsd-7linux-= bench&num=3D4 > > > >=20 > > > > I wonder about the results for FreeBSD. As I do not have 11 on my= =20 > > > > machines, a stupid question. Are there still some debugging aids=20 > > > > enabled in 11? =20 > > > > They're off in those versions, but did note compiler (and compiler > > > > args) differences between within most tests (See attachments) as you > > > > mentioned. > > > the benchmark then compares the off-the-shelve distributions.=20 > > >=20 > > > Excuse me, as a casual reader of the list, I don't get this "critique= ".=20 > > >=20 > > > I never recompile my installations, I just use them from the > > > installation CD (as probably 90% of the rest of the world), so I don't > > > get what is wrong with the approach of comparing an out-of-the-box > > > FreeBSD 11 with an out-of-the-box Ubuntu whatever.=20 > > >=20 > > > If FreeBSD 11 "out-the-box" performs slow because the standard compil= ers > > > options aren't good it's not a problem with the benchmarking platform > > > but with the default CD compiling options.=20 > > >=20 > > > Am I getting it wrong?=20 > >=20 > > The problem here is that Phoronix took a Beta version of FreeBSD 11. > > Beta versions have a lot of debugging (malloc, invariants, witness) > > options enabled which make it significantly slower than release > > versions. This is even obviously when you run a Beta as a desktop. It > > just feels much slower. >=20 > No. > All debugs in amd64 is off at time of BETA. Ok, then FreeBSD is just slower... --hN1XGyM8GoU8K2XL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQF8BAEBCgBmBQJXvC0nXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ4RjQwMDE3RTRERjUzMTI1N0FGRTUxNDlF NTRDQjM3RDNBMDg5RDZEAAoJEOVMs306CJ1tToUH/15tsj3zgUM6WmPUndLcDhoe FyeuXf7+kpFhk7OLyem0EYQab1v6cizU/sS8Af2iv8lVljEKHMff+PwLgPy00LZX m27NlnbbnOUuvkF089IIkz70Zxw7eX/qjCXf4gPg0gWmrNhCzEZ/EtNp+2evj3CC GdFUsp2jiajrGyZqFjcfJccN2Zo7HzPvMiinUtHbXuhvxa++LtGWDrSzH4wUU9GB mRkkTr1Yah3GVug+8bC3LHbBwF61YdzGotMPHRmNZmO9TdapUsTi5IA6/3o11cLd FAkwNyx2Yi8NCKzQCfFrCq7SwMpekPDhZUPCoBE62VXURbTpSq1EuY/HSUafASU= =Tlpx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --hN1XGyM8GoU8K2XL--
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