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Date:      Sat, 21 Apr 2018 12:35:44 +0200
From:      Gary Jennejohn <gljennjohn@gmail.com>
To:        Konstantin Belousov <kib@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Colin Percival <cperciva@tarsnap.com>, "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>, Conrad Meyer <cem@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: RFC: Hiding per-CPU kernel output behind bootverbose
Message-ID:  <20180421123544.56d7e690@ernst.home>
In-Reply-To: <20180421092049.GM6887@kib.kiev.ua>
References:  <01000162df15f856-1e5d2641-2a72-4250-8d8e-adcd47bc5db4-000000@email.amazonses.com> <20180419204405.GE6887@kib.kiev.ua> <CAG6CVpUerOo%2B55nJq61Hy83RYpbOZS6puEDuemspfNS12urZZw@mail.gmail.com> <20180419214550.GF6887@kib.kiev.ua> <01000162e58a466e-98f0305b-1723-467a-bc49-342c3fa9fc5b-000000@email.amazonses.com> <20180421092049.GM6887@kib.kiev.ua>

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On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 12:20:49 +0300
Konstantin Belousov <kib@freebsd.org> wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 21, 2018 at 12:11:07AM +0000, Colin Percival wrote:
> > On 04/19/18 14:45, Konstantin Belousov wrote:  
> > > On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 02:37:56PM -0700, Conrad Meyer wrote:  
> > >> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 1:44 PM, Konstantin Belousov wrote:  
> > >>> The 'CPU XX Launched' messages are very useful for initial diagnostic
> > >>> of the SMP startup failures. You need to enable bootverbose to see the
> > >>> hang details, but for initial hint they are required. Unfortunately, AP
> > >>> startup hangs occur too often to pretend that this can be delegated to
> > >>> very specific circumstances.  
> > >>
> > >> Really?  I don't know that I've ever seen an AP startup hang.  How
> > >> often do they occur?  
> > > 
> > > It was epidemic with Sandy Bridge, mostly correlated to specific BIOS
> > > supplier and its interaction with the x2APIC enablement, see madt.c:170
> > > and below.
> > > 
> > > There were several recent reports of the issue with Broadwell Xeon
> > > machines, no additional data or resolution.
> > > 
> > > There are sporadic reports of the problem, where I do not see
> > > a clear commonality.  
> > 
> > Would it be sufficient for debugging purposes if I change the !bootverbose
> > case from printing many lines of
> > 
> > SMP: AP CPU #N Launched!
> > 
> > to instead have a single
> > 
> > SMP: Launching AP CPUs: 86 73 111 21 8 77 100 28 57 42 10 60 87 88 41 113 36
> > 19 72 46 92 52 24 81 90 3 107 96 9 14 80 118 29 121 62 74 56 55 1 12 63 18 67
> > 13 45 102 33 94 69 68 93 83 48 31 30 32 51 89 71 78 64 84 123 61 40 47 37 22
> > 54 101 38 4 97 44 17 109 104 5 85 43 2 99 39 65 95 53 58 66 91 125 23 115 16
> > 35 79 112 103 82 7 75 11 6 98 15 126 127 20 70 34 105 27 50 116 120 49 25 108
> > 106 122 117 114 26 110 59 76 124 119
> > 
> > ?  (With each AP printing its number as it reaches the appropriate point?)
> > 
> > This yields almost the same gain as silencing the launch messages completely,
> > while still allowing you to see each CPU announcing itself.  
> I am fine with the behaviour, but I am not sure how would you implement
> this.  printf(9) buffers the output, you need to flush it somehow.
>

And printf(9) calls vprintf(9) which in turn calls _vprintf which
will allocate a buffer on the stack (bad idea) if the option
PRINTF_BUFR_SIZE is set in the kernel config file.  So it seems
that output may even be double buffered.

-- 
Gary Jennejohn



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