Date: Thu, 24 May 2018 09:10:10 -0700 (PDT) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> To: Glen Barber <gjb@FreeBSD.org> Cc: Philip Homburg <pch-fbsd-1@u-1.phicoh.com>, "K. Macy" <kmacy@FreeBSD.org>, "A. Wilcox" <AWilcox@wilcox-tech.com>, FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: [RFC] Deprecation and removal of the drm2 driver Message-ID: <201805241610.w4OGAAGY041280@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> In-Reply-To: <20180524160234.GD68014@FreeBSD.org>
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> On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 08:22:12AM -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:
> > > On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 11:48:38AM +0200, Philip Homburg wrote:
> > > > >Also as the Moore's law curve flattens expect the life of these
> > > > >older, but not so old, machines to live quiet some time. I
> > > > >believe we are talking sandy bridge and earlier? If that is
> > > > >corret Sandy bridge is still a very viable system.
> > > >
> > > > I noticed this lack of love for older systems recently.
> > > >
> > > > I wanted to use an older Dell server to test the 11.2 BETAs and RCs.
> > > >
> > > > Turns out, you can't install FreeBSD using a USB stick image because the
> > > > BIOS only support MBR. No idea why MBR support was dropped for the USB images.
> > > >
> > > > In the end I had to find a CD burner, and after a couple of tries managed to
> > > > install from CD.
> > > >
> > > > After that, my ansible playbooks started failing because /boot/loader.conf
> > > > is absent if you boot from zfs in combination with MBR.
> > > >
> > > > Pity. This older server hardware is great for trying out new releases, play
> > > > with zfs, etc.
> > >
> > > The disc1.iso (as well as bootonly.iso and dvd1.iso) images are now
> > > built as hybrid images, supporting both MBR and GPT, as well as being
> > > written to a flash drive (like memstick.img) as well as a CD.
> >
> > To clarify a minor point here, are the amd64 disc1.iso images or
> > both the amd64 and i386 disk1.iso images being built as "hybrid"?
> >
>
> Only amd64. i386 does not have UEFI-/GPT-related boot issues.
Here is a data point:
Test system is Dell R710,
First attempt is with BIOS in Boot mode: Bios
Second attempt is with BIOS in Boot mode: UEFI
Attemtped to boot amd64 version:
Screen goes white background, text appears (yes, way indented)
BTX version is 1.02
Consoles: internal video/keyboard
_
That last _ is a blinking cursor, system is hung, does repsond to C-A-del
Second attempt:
Works properly
I am going after Ed Maste's posted build image in the other thread now...
>
> > As this is what I see on my system:
> > root@x230a:/home/ISO/x # file FreeBSD-11.2-BETA2-*
> > FreeBSD-11.2-BETA2-amd64-disc1.iso: DOS/MBR boot sector; partition 1 : ID=0xee, start-CHS (0x0,0,2), end-CHS (0x3ff,255,63), startsector 1, 1472695 sectors
> > FreeBSD-11.2-BETA2-i386-disc1.iso: ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data '11_2_BETA2_I386_CD' (bootable)
> >
> > > MBR support was initially removed from the memstick installer, as it is
> > > not compatible with some UEFI implementations. (Or, at least that is my
> > > understanding, based on my limited intimate knowledge of UEFI.)
> > >
>
> Glen
>
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