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Date:      Thu, 4 Oct 2018 17:07:20 +0200
From:      Joel Dahl <joel@vnode.se>
To:        Brooks Davis <brooks@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: FCP-0101: Deprecating most 10/100 Ethernet drivers
Message-ID:  <20181004150720.GA4942@ymer.vnode.se>
In-Reply-To: <20181003210516.GA71565@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net>
References:  <20181003210516.GA71565@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net>

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On Wed, Oct 03, 2018 at 09:05:16PM +0000, Brooks Davis wrote:
> The criteria for exception are:
>  - Popular in applications where it is likely to be deployed beyond the
>    support lifetime of FreeBSD 12 (late 2023).
>    - 5 reports of uses in the wild on machines running FreeBSD 12 will be
>      deemed satisfy the "popular"
>      requirement.

Why doesn't reports of uses on machines running FreeBSD 10/11 count? I don't
get it. 12.0 isn't even out yet, and most of our users are probably not
running CURRENT. As I wrote in an earlier email, I have lots of these cards
running in production - and most of them are on FreeBSD 11. They'll
likely be upgraded to 12.1 in the future (but probably not 12.0 - I usually
skip .0 releases). But doing the jump to CURRENT/12 now is just out of the
question - these are production systems after all.

-- 
Joel



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