Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2020 14:11:02 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov <vas@sibptus.ru> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Technological advantages over Linux Message-ID: <20200316071102.GD90309@admin.sibptus.ru> In-Reply-To: <20200215083359.367d8a3e9ddb4942df67d5b5@sohara.org> References: <20200214121620.GA80657@admin.sibptus.ru> <CAEJNuHwRs=6kOK9uiFzEAqCgSgvUb8Xm5o2VWnK-ND_zseowdg@mail.gmail.com> <20200214141600.GA82559@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200214204838.360c8f624397c659946bd764@sohara.org> <20200215063818.GE1482@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200215083359.367d8a3e9ddb4942df67d5b5@sohara.org>
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--RhUH2Ysw6aD5utA4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 13:38:18 +0700 > Victor Sudakov <vas@sibptus.ru> wrote: >=20 > > But jails lack a repository of ready-made containers with applications. >=20 > True - but there's never been anything to prevent setting one up, > iocage has export, import, rename and snapshot which should provide the > necessary core. >=20 > > To be honest, jails lack even a decent management infrastructure. Yes we >=20 > There are several iocage, ezjail, cbsd, bsdploy, jest to mention > just a few. I find iocage suits my needs well enough. Oh, I've met an iocage person. Steve, can iocage export thin provisioned images? If you publish an iocage image e.g. of a Moodle server, will it contain the whole underlying FreeBSD system within? >=20 > > have bits like "pkg -j", "bectl jail", "bsdinstall jail", > > "freebsd-update -b" but nobody cared to build a convenient > > infrastructure out of all this, not to speak about a repository of > > ready-made jails for different purposes. >=20 > Quite so, FreeBSD has all the bits to do it and has had for some > time, but nobody wanted a repository of pre-built jails enough to make on= e. > Nothing stops you from starting one based around one of the tools above or > from scratch based on the native support. It gets done internally by > organisations using FreeBSD to provide images that have been tested and > vetted by internal dev-ops and security folks - such organisations also > tend to build their own docker repository rather than trusting ones from > the net. The last time I checked, "image provision" was broken in sysutils/vm-bhyve and nobody cares: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D241699 --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --RhUH2Ysw6aD5utA4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJebyaGAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY034AIAJeiJf7iJW6ZvwjKb3AKZing QBCwME35YdJusJYwg2ZgJmO8uIk6uekIxHYyCPxk5R5PEvpqKh0I/ZVCOzE+IbLZ 8Nlb69NRYFypkSFW5arlmLPuEFe2vZJs/663eTsHX6s0TkDXI0OBcopRlAQg31ek 04ZbM1h0+HNqh5V7zESkte4AIT8z6F1ie+SZMVP/1CQeRwGZWwPL7vYy2c3r6wvK M7qqFd/FJNN/PTJIXhxAN6T4OVos5dacKXde9p4B+zMb5TEyAkBqffWX/wz4mRx3 4Cw2ZneBFG4HqE2AEe5bpztVrOZSsc0JBPUYU4VFfKhOzzFJRialbM31KH5cDqc= =CXYE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --RhUH2Ysw6aD5utA4--
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