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Date:      Sat, 20 Mar 2021 06:34:58 -0400
From:      Jerry <jerry@seibercom.net>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: OS to replace FreeBSD
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On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 18:30:00 -0400, Aryeh Friedman stated:
>On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 4:32 PM Ralf Mardorf <ralf-mardorf@riseup.net>
>wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 11:16:33 -0700, freebsd@johnea.net wrote: =20
>> >Void uses a runit init system with no systemd =20
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I suspect it's not a good idea to use Linux without systemd. For
>> example, by upstream udev is part of systemd. Maintaining Linux
>> without systemd is a bottomless pit.
>>
>> On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 13:35:21 -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote: =20
>> >Recompiling the kernel is *TRIVIAL* if you refuse to do it then you
>> >should not be using any Unix variant =20
>>
>> I dislike this tone of voice. However, I agree that compiling the
>> kernel might be less effort, than migrating to another operating
>> system. If you would e.g. migrate to Arch Linux, you need to get
>> used to systemd. Getting used to systemd isn't pleasant. If you
>> chose a Linux distro that doesn't use systemd, you likely will
>> experience all kinds of trouble, if you want to customize your
>> install.=20
>
>I used that tone because it really is simple and if you can't/won't
>recompile the kernel before throwing the baby out despite with the bath
>water then you really don't have the skills/desire needed to use Unix
>effectively...  Just to show how trivial it really is
>
>1. Edit /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC (or i386 instead of amd64 if
>your still using it) to comment out the xhci line (line 327 in
>12.2-RELASE-pl3) to remove USB 3.0 support
>2. cd /usr/src
>3. make kernel
>4. etcupdate
>5. reboot
>
>Done.... how hard is that?

I never said I could not compile a new kernel, I said I could not
install the OS. Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't the installation
of the OS precede the creation of a new kernel? Furthermore, the
screen just rolls away filling up with the error message ad infinitum.

By the way, as I understand it, creating a custom kernel nullifies the
use of "freebsd update". Wow, things just keep getting better & better.

What I cannot understand is that FreeBSD knows it has a problem, one
not shared by any other OS as far as I have been able to ascertain,
and I have done a lot of research, and they refuse to fix it. The
problem did not exist before version 12.x, so it is not like they never
were able to get it right.

--=20
Jerry




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