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Date:      Wed, 30 Sep 1998 07:51:45 -0700
From:      "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
To:        spork <spork@super-g.com>
Cc:        "Carlos C. Tapang" <ctapang@easystreet.com>, John Birrell <jb@cimlogic.com.au>, Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: What would it take to build the FreeBSD kernel into Portable Executable (PE) format? 
Message-ID:  <22735.907167105@time.cdrom.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:25:12 EDT." <Pine.BSF.4.00.9809301022390.8712-100000@super-g.inch.com> 

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> Comeon now, you folks haven't seen SoftWindows on an Ultra?  Runs all the
> office apps, Outlook, and other "corporate communications" apps fine.
> Same with the Mac.

You come on now, that's a rather different class of application than
writing an OS simulation layer for the Win32 environment.  The
SoftWindows / SoftPC dealies emulate an entire virtual machine so of
course they "succeed" somewhat more than those groups who attempt to
make it all run side-by-side on a single virtual machine. :-)

I've heard that the SoftPC solutions are getting faster now with JIT
machine-code translators and other such techniques for making
emulation of the target machine a lot less expensive, but that doesn't
seem to be the direction any of the free emulator projects (like
Bochs) have taken yet.  If you want an exercise in severe pain, go set
up a Win95 environment under Bochs (www.freebsd.org/~jkh/do-this-m$!.jpg)
and run your Outlook application under that for starters. :-)

- Jordan

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