Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 04:15:43 -0700 From: Tim Gerchmez <fewtch@serv.net> To: Jukka Simila <lmkjuksi@info1.info.tampere.fi> Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fave Window Manager... found it. Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980624041543.00805100@mx.serv.net> In-Reply-To: <XFMail.980624131401.lmkjuksi@info1.info.tampere.fi> References: <3.0.5.32.19980623195124.008076a0@mx.serv.net>
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At 01:01 PM 6/24/98 +0300, Jukka Simila wrote: >Well I just wanted to say that I used fvwm2 2 weeks and didn't really solve it >out.. just configured colors & a little bit something else. But now I'm using >ctwm, and yes, it is simple to use, but I think U really can do alot with it. As I say, it is very simple and easy to use (I liked it a lot when I tried it, but it didn't offer quite enough for me, at least for the amount of time I tried it), and yes, you can do a lot with it (a lot more than with plain old twm anyway)... the pager is very nice to look at as well (8 virtual desktops by default with different backgrounds on each) but it didn't seem to offer a lot of features (as in, modules and other utilities and stuff that comes with it). It's really good for a newbie, and/or if you don't want to deal with icons or a lot of other BS. I tell you though, advanced BSD users are laughing at both of us. Fvwm2 is considered one of the more basic window managers as well. The "gurus" all are using KDE, or Afterstep/Windowmaker/Enlightenment, or maybe even a commercial window manager. The "Nextstep/Openstep" look is very popular right now (which I personally am not that thrilled with). Maybe I didn't give ctwm enough of a chance.. if I get tired of not being able to change the background in Fvwm2, maybe I'll switch. Or maybe I'll use both.. who knows... that's one of the cool things about X... try using 20 different user interfaces on a Microsoft OS... ;-) >I >don't have to look any icons around, I have disabled them from >extremely-easy-to-configure-file .ctwmrc and I have a pop-up menu for my third >mousebutton. also, when i 'used' fvwm2 I didn't notice option available in >ctwm: f.movepack or f.movepush, so windows are very easy to arrange nicely, >when they don't overlap unless u really want so. One of the disadvantages of Fvwm2 is that window resizing can be a pain in the butt. If your desktop and buttonbar are covered up, it becomes very difficult to resize a window if you need to (you need to iconify it or switch using the pager before you can resize). I've always preferred window managers that auto-resize when you click any edge of a window (like Windows does it), and Fvwm2 doesn't do that. So maybe eventually I'll switch to something else (but probably not... I've put a LOT of work into configuring Fvwm2 at this point). >and backgrounds are working >perfectly. :). That's another beef I have with Fvwm2. The background chooser (called the 'backer' module in Fvwm2) is broken, as far as I can see it. You get two choices - "puke purple" (default) or "bunghole brown" (if you try and use the backer module). Nothing else seems to work. No pictures, nothing. The purple is bearable, though. >BTW, as u can see, I use Xfmail, but I would like to know if u >tested it: does it support filters? - I haven't been able to find anything >about them within xfmail. I think it supports something called "rules" that are similar to filters.. but nothing is so easy in Unix, so check it out, it probably takes 10 times as long to configure as the Eudora filters do, for example... ;-) BTW, are you having the same problem I am... when you click on a message to read or reply in Xfmail, the window that comes up is HUGE (fills more than one whole screen) and there doesn't look like any way to change it... ? You have to manually resize it each time, it looks like, or just put up with it filling the entire screen from corner to corner (I hate programs that do that... I always like some desktop space available). Tim (Now posting from Win95 ;-) -- My web site starts at http://www.serv.net/~fewtch/index.html - lots of goodies for everyone, have a look if you have the time. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message
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