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Date:      Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:32:26 -0800
From:      Doug <DougGuy@dal.net>
To:        Capriotti <capriotti@geocities.com>
Cc:        freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: FW: One step forward....
Message-ID:  <351C451A.F7897291@dal.net>
References:  <3.0.32.19980328062831.009b6bc0@pop.mpc.com.br>

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Capriotti wrote:
> 
> At 08:23 AM 3/28/98 +1100, you wrote:
> >They are most welcome to subscribe and watch, just as we can subscribe and
> >watch any list on which our comments would be inappropriate (such as the
> >highly technical ones for developers).
> 
> Easy, Sue... We've got it. :)

	This is one area that sue and I disagree on. New users are welcome to
subscribe to any open freebsd list. If you asked a question like, "What
does UFS mean?" on -hackers you'd probably just be ignored. In general
the only people who get flamed are people who insist on continuing to
use the wrong forum for long pointless nonsense. Subscribe to -current
if you'd like to see the occasional example. :)

> >But when they subscribe to this mailing list they do so as guests and should
> >not pop up and offer to solve our problems for us in this forum. We need
> >newbies-friendly helpers much more desperately in -questions.
> 
> No need to stress it so much.

	Indeed. I've had people mail me saying that they appreciated my help
but they are unsubscribing from -newbies because they don't want to be
held hostage to one person's view of what the list should be. As I've
said, I support the idea of this list defining its own purpose as it
grows. I have and will continue to keep my posts to this lists few and
far between. However freebsd is a family, and one group of freebsd users
telling another group that they are "guests" and should be seen and not
heard doesn't promote unity. It supports a class division that only
exists in certain people's imagination. 

Doug

PS, UFS = Unix File System, also known as FFS or Fast File System. :)

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