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Date:      Wed, 05 Aug 1998 22:50:29 -0600
From:      Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>
To:        Vince Vielhaber <vev@michvhf.com>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Install *actually* friendly
Message-ID:  <35C93615.D83647EC@softweyr.com>
References:  <XFMail.980805203341.vev@michvhf.com>

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Wes Peters ranted:
> > You don't understand: if you don't have a "master" device plugged into
> > that "IDE2" connector on your motherboard, YOU DON"T HAVE A SECOND IDE
> > CONTROLLER!  The "controller" on IDE is ON THE DRIVE, that's what
> > "Integrated Drive Electronics" means.
 
Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> If the BIOS, dos, windoze, linux, OS/2, etc.  can detect and use a device
> on the slave with no "master" your statement is slightly amiss.  AND QUIT
> SHOUTING!

Sorry 'bout the yelling, but this is SUCH a newbie question: "I've 
configured my hardware wrong, and FreeBSD doesn't work with it, even 
though (insert your favorite piece of PC bovine excrement software,
which includes your BIOS here) does.  Why don't you bozos get your 
act together?"

If we could afford to pay a team of 15 engineers for a month to figure 
out how to talk to the controller on a SLAVE disk, we probably still 
wouldn't, because we could also pay them to improve something on a 
correctly configured system.

If you really feel it is important to have the system correctly probe
and support an improperly configured IDE bus, or better yet, just to
report that it is improperly configured, feel free to email patches to
hackers@freebsd.org.  I'm sure one of the commiters will be glad to 
check out your changes and commit them if they are the work of 
brilliance you want.  ;^)

-- 
       "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?"

Wes Peters                                                 Softweyr LLC
http://www.softweyr.com/~softweyr                      wes@softweyr.com

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