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Date:      Sat, 16 Oct 1999 21:36:54 -0600
From:      Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>
To:        jonathan michaels <jon@caamora.com.au>
Cc:        Chris Dillon <cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us>, ckwen <ckwen@eembox.ee.ncku.edu.tw>, freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: can two fast ethernet cards work in a freebsd box ?
Message-ID:  <38094456.B210ECEC@softweyr.com>
References:  <199910161104.TAA26753@eembox.ee.ncku.edu.tw> <Pine.BSF.4.10.9910161424540.81531-100000@mail.wolves.k12.mo.us> <19991017090323.A23931@caamora.com.au>

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jonathan michaels wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Oct 16, 1999 at 02:28:56PM -0500, Chris Dillon wrote:
> > On Sat, 16 Oct 1999, ckwen wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks to Wes Peters and Martin Machacek.
> > > Now the hub's 100 Mbps LED goes on again after the execution
> > > of ifconfig command. The parameters I set in ifconfig are
> > >      "media 100baseTX mediaopt full-duplex."
> > > Neither of them can be omitted.
> >
> > If this really is a HUB as you have been saying all this time, and not
> > a SWITCH, you don't want to be using full-duplex.
> 
> ummm, this may be a silly question, if  so would you (or
> anybody else) be so kind as to reply off list as to why and
> what the difference would be in this regard

Full duplex can only be used on a network where there are only two
transmitters.  Since hubs are a shared resource, connecting multiple
transmitters together, you can only use half-duplex.

Switches do not have this problem, because each switch port is a single
network.  As long as you plug only one NIC into each switch port, you 
can run that one NIC at full duplex.

> i've just recently gotten a couple of 100basetx nics for my
> three pci based computers and have started to save fro a
> 100basetx hub, i was then told that a swithch would be better,
> especially if i had lots of collisions.

Yes, every machine plugged into a hub is in a shared collision domain.
In a switched environment, the collision domain consists of the switch
and the host, so there are NO collisions.  Even an inexpensive layer 2
switch provides these benefits.

> since mving into a new house (700 meters fron teh end of off 
> and directly down teh middle of off teh middle of one  off teh 
> main runways of sydeny international airport. previously ultra 
> reliable equipment has becme more than a bit quirky.

It may.  A switch will regenerate each of the packets, whereas a hub
only retransmits them and often will induce small timing errors itself.

Unfortunately, even inexpensive switches aren't all that inexpensive.

-- 
            "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?"

Wes Peters                                                         Softweyr LLC
wes@softweyr.com                                           http://softweyr.com/




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