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Date:      Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:34:20 -0800
From:      Craig Harding <crh@outpost.co.nz>
To:        multimedia@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: something like video4linux the 2. (some thoughts...)
Message-ID:  <38863BEC.F6AE9741@outpost.co.nz>
References:  <200001180926.BAA20178@rah.star-gate.com>

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Amancio Hasty wrote:

> Let me try to make it even clearer we need a major push on the
> application side. We can spend  man years doing cool low
> level driver stuff however the fact remains who is going
> to write the apps. I understand there will be rare occasions for
> linux commercial video offerings but for now they will be
> just few .

Sorry Amancio, but I can't disagree more strongly. Given, as you
acknowledge, that there isn't a heap of people working in multimedia on
FreeBSD, then expecting a whole bunch of really cool applications to
fall out of the tree is a bit unrealistic.

If we've learnt anything from that last 18 months, it should be that no
matter how much we dislike the fact, commercial software vendors will
produce a Linux binary long before they produce a FreeBSD one. We
already have at least 99% of the infrastructure in place to use these
linux apps, but in the category of multimedia applications we're stuffed
without a V4L interface.

Useful multimedia applications *are* coming to Linux, if we get the
device interface right then the same apps will run on FreeBSD as well.
And no-one here will have had to wait for any FreeBSD multimedia
application hackers to magically appear from nowhere.

> Code up the low level kernel interfaces and drivers then pray
> that the applications people will come along and do the coding.

If we get the right kernel interface, we can run the applications that
already exist! (like the linux version of RealProducer Plus, which I
have bought and sits on my webcam machine encoding RealAudio from a live
feed. Even the GUI interface works!).

					-- C.


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