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Date:      Mon, 15 May 2000 20:10:29 +0900
From:      "Daniel C. Sobral" <dcs@newsguy.com>
To:        Martin Cracauer <cracauer@cons.org>
Cc:        Bob Bishop <rb@gid.co.uk>, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Motif goes open source
Message-ID:  <391FDB25.D7FB808F@newsguy.com>
References:  <4.3.1.2.20000515080753.00abfd70@gid.co.uk> <20000515114002.A64473@cons.org>

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Martin Cracauer wrote:
> 
> In <4.3.1.2.20000515080753.00abfd70@gid.co.uk>, Bob Bishop wrote:
> > "The Open Group, a vendor and technology-neutral consortium dedicated to
> > enterprise integration, announced today that it is releasing the source
> > code of Motif, using a public license, to the Open Source community."
> >
> > Full details at http://www.opengroup.org/openmotif
> 
> The license seems to make it quite useless.
> http://www.opengroup.org/openmotif/license/

Huh? The license makes it quite useful, IMHO.

> "Free for use on Operating Systems that are themself Open Source"
> (note the blank), otherwise with something like a GPL virus, but

(blank? what blank?)

> incompatible with the GPL.  As it is not an essential system library,
> you may not link GPL programs to it.  As the point about FreeBSD is

That's because GPL is brain-damaged. It is, essentially, incompatible
with anything but GPL. Even the BSD license had to have a clause removed
(and I'm still doubtful if this makes it "compatible" with GPL).

> that you can make it non-OpenSource at will, no essential system parts
> of FreeBSD may be linked to it.

We do have a lot of GPLed code in the system, which cannot be made
non-OpenSource.

Anyway, the license does not contaminate linked programs. It says so
explicitly. In this respect, it is much better than GPL. Also, since X
is a separate component, it would be no burden to distribute it with the
system. Honestly, I don't know of a single BSD-based solution out there
that would have had the least trouble had Motif with the above license
been distributed with FreeBSD.

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Daniel C. Sobral			(8-DCS)
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