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Date:      Tue, 23 Jan 2001 13:42:58 -0500
From:      Kevin Brunelle <kruptos@netzero.net>
To:        freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: C style continued.... (Craig and Terry)
Message-ID:  <3A6DD0B2.B473AF52@netzero.net>
References:  <3.0.6.32.20010123091354.009de7c0@mail85.pair.com> <3.0.6.32.20010123095930.00a14550@mail85.pair.com>

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Okay, time for me to jump in, let me make it very clear where I stand on
this issue. I am K&R all the way. I started learning that way and it
always made the most sense to me. Besides, K&R is beautiful -- IMO. But
the real reason I am even contributing to this conversation has to do
with code you write outside your control. Every bit of code I write for
myself I write in K&R, but for a college class that I am in it must
follow the style guide. What does the style guide say? Let's just say
that you could scare small children with the code submitted for that
class. It is a mixture of all the worst ideas ever conceived. It is very
close to some code posted before (included below). Now that is ugly! Not
only is this a bad thing, because it teaches new programmers how to
write really ugly code as habit; but, you cannot deviate from style. My
first program was turned in in K&R style; 40% was the max. grade I could
get on it. Yeah, a good coder can write in whatever style he/she needs
to but they don't have to like it. The only time I was happy writing
code for that class was when we were paired up for final projects. I was
paired with a person who was a mediocre programmer at best. I was able
to write 95% of the code, and he made it fit the style guide. ;-)

I guess what I am wasting your bandwidth and hard drive space to say is:
You are going to have to write ugly code for other people, do you have
to write it for yourself too?

A little side note here: This teacher is totally stuck in his way of
doing things. Another issue I had with him was licensing. He wanted all
the code in class GPL'd I wanted my code to be BSD'd. He said that was
fine, but any code that wasn't GPL wasn't graded. It took a week to get
him to elaborate on the issue any further than that, and I am still
writing under the GPL for the class unless "... an act of god forbids
it."

>if ( 
>          i 
>          == 
>          0 
>  )
>  {
>          foo(
>                  i
>          )
>          ;
>
>          bar(
>                  i
>          )
>          ;
>  }


Kevin Brunelle
-- 
"Do not meddle in the affairs of sysadmins,
for they are subtle and quick to anger."


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