Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 20:53:50 -0800 From: Kent Stewart <kstewart@urx.com> To: "Matthew E. Martini" <martini@invision.net> Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.3-BETA Message-ID: <3AB6E25E.F4F2FD6E@urx.com> References: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0103192311210.62820-100000@aeon.invision.net>
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Matt Martini wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > I've read the documentation, and I'm far from being a newbie (having been at > this since 2.2.5) and I still think the terminology used is confusing. > > If I'm an admin who wants a solid, tested, dare I say stable, operating > system to run in my production enviornment I would want to grab a codebase > called "STABLE." > > If I'm a developer, or just having fun with FreeBSD and I WANT to live on > the bleeding edge then I would grab a codebase named "CURRENT." > > But as Andrew as pointed out this is NOT the was FreeBSD works at all. > > The -STABLE code is updated every day and is anything but "stable" and the > - -RELEASE branch doesn't change. To my mind this is all backwards. Not in my mind. The -release branch always has something wrong with it and it typically is never fixed. The fixes are added to -stable. It is just a function of whether it matters to you or not. To find them, all of us would have to install 4.x-beta, 4.x-rc, 4.x-release, and so on. That doesn't happen and the first really broad install always seems to find something. It my be a nit but it is still something. On the other, current is really bleeding edge and I don't want to spend my time debuging unfinished software. So, I don't run either current or -releases. I have 4 machines running 4.3-beta. Two can do really quick updates and the other two are much slower. The changes to -stable aren't always fixes. Sometimes they add something new in the middle. The massive changes to upgrade to a new release occur about every 4 months. You just follow stable and grab your changes in a quiet time. Kent > > It's not really all that bad once you get used to it (I got used to the X11 > people calling the workstation side the server and the big multiuser box > you connect to the client), but it is far from intuitive. > > And while I agree that often times newbies don't RTFM, it is our duty to > help them understand our quirks of terminology and not come down too hard on > them for being newbies. > > In case you hadn't noticed the Linux crowd is propogating an inferior > product at a faster pace then FreeBSD because it is easier/friendlier to the > newbie! (ditto x2 for M$). > > Matt > > On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Andrew Hesford wrote: > > > No... 4.2-RELEASE begat 4.2-STABLE. Until a few weeks ago, we were all > > running 4.2-STABLE. Now we run 4.3-BETA. Then comes 4.3-RC, and then > > 4.3-RELEASE. It is after this that 4.3-STABLE comes about. > > > > You won't see 4.4-STABLE until 4.4 has been released. > > > > __________________________ http://www.invision.net/ _______________________ > > Matthew E. Martini, PE InVision.com, Inc. (631) 543-1000 x104 > Chief Technology Officer matt@invision.net (631) 864-8896 Fax > _______________________________________________________________________pgp_ > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGP 6.5.1i > > iQEVAwUBOrbc2GtXn16/JS7ZAQGPGAgAiLPsQdCR3X+huWtCL6NhQtb5nHl6/KDV > JonmzjMCERLWn8v4H1YAO7ee91y2ytTEMgSRmYvVEjRLxv+wYucxGLfrx7kwSuaB > uUK3YzKUVGVJxXmq1S9NIIySvbqT2lbJ3WgD+vLwCqp0mTTrGLEJ4qHDcFd8aEmJ > Lh8JyF5Usm3p9xVHfLTfNOJvc7yHUJYEeUhzw3XyvCQI3fjjAOzD9Mv3ygpDwS/w > oFLqnmoguBaVHitc+pwawgQJw/NsbqdRxPtVoeP5q6ZMjBxSK+K39Ldh7YJHFbzW > H4+dsDawB+qSzIefNChTeSpFoYHLHdn9oVpkApDhIZKplcsev/zb6A== > =OKdA > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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