Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 08:41:16 -0700 From: Rob <europax@home.com> To: Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be> Cc: Jordan Hubbard <jkh@osd.bsdi.com>, bzdik@yahoo.com, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Crap OS X Message-ID: <3AFEAB1C.C45A16F@home.com> References: <20010512130047Z.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010512222337.90720.qmail@web13602.mail.yahoo.com> <20010512170922Z.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <p05100306b72437286bdc@[194.78.241.123]>
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I might install Max OS-X if they had a version of CyberDog that ran on
it. I really loved that program. It was the first WWW browser that was
fast. Rob.
Brad Knowles wrote:
>
> At 5:09 PM -0700 5/12/01, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
>
> > I wasn't talking as a theorist either, but perhaps I've simply worked
> > in a wider array of environments than you have. I can certainly say
> > that my needs would be rather ill-served by MacOS 8, whereas is
> > appears to be more than enough for you.
>
> The thing I'm most looking forward to is reduction in the number
> of times my machine is crashed, or locked up into a state where the
> only way to recover is to pull the plug. If real virtual memory and
> pre-emptive multi-tasking were the only things added to MacOS 9, I'd
> be pretty happy.
>
> As it is, I've been waiting years for someone to deliver on the
> promise of taking the Mac interface and joining that to the power of
> Unix. Don't talk to me about A/UX, I remember what a dog it was. [0]
> NeXTStep was a better attempt (at least it was a semi-functional OS
> with a fairly decent GUI), but they had a problem with being able to
> deliver the desktop applications.
>
> For me, Apple has flubbed enough things in the past, such that if
> they screw up MacOS X, they're toast. I've got tens of thousands of
> dollars of hardware and software invested in MacOS, but I've been
> frustrated enough with them for enough years that I think I'll pretty
> much toss it all away if Apple doesn't get this right.
>
> In my book, Apple already has one foot down that road, because of
> lack of support for AT&T/Lucent/Agere WaveLAN/Orinoco cards under
> MacOS X. Apple won't support them because they aren't AirPort cards
> (although AirPort cards are only slightly modified WaveLAN/Orinoco
> cards to begin with), even though they use real WaveLAN/Orinoco cards
> in their own AirPort Base Station. Lucent/Agere won't support them
> under MacOS X because they feel that this is the responsibility of
> Apple. Somebody has to give.
>
> [0] Its only raison de etre' was the fact that Apple wanted the
> cheapest possible path they could get to being able to say that their
> hardware was capable of running a POSIX-compliant OS. This way, they
> could better shoe-horn their way into US Federal Government contracts
> where the contracting officers really just wished that Apple would
> dry up and die, because they wanted their PCs dammit, but they
> weren't allowed to specify PCs directly, so one way they had of
> locking Apple out was to require that the machine be capable of
> running a POSIX OS -- regardless of the fact that they would never
> even dream of running a POSIX OS on the thing, they'd instead run GEM
> or Windows 1.0, and the hell with POSIX.
>
> Of course, for this, Apple chose to base A/UX on SVR2, the oldest
> (and cheapest) version of Unix that was actually POSIX compliant, as
> opposed to SVR3 which was newer, much more capable, and had a higher
> probability of actually being semi-useful.
>
> --
> Brad Knowles, <brad.knowles@skynet.be>
>
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