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Date:      Tue, 10 Jul 2001 09:44:23 -0700
From:      "Crist Clark" <crist.clark@globalstar.com>
To:        Darren Reed <avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au>
Cc:        freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: FW: Small TCP packets == very large overhead == DoS?
Message-ID:  <3B4B30E7.28607AEE@globalstar.com>
References:  <200107100938.TAA13064@caligula.anu.edu.au>

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Darren Reed wrote:
> 
> In some mail from Crist Clark, sie said:
> >
> > The TCP segment is everything in the IP payload. An SYN segment is a
> > TCP segment, but it carries no data and has a segment length of one (whee!).
> > I can see that clearly in the RFC, and I think we all cab agree on that.
> > However, I think that a SYN segment, which is all header, has a size greater
> > than one. It looks more like 24-or-so bytes typically... or maybe it does not.
> > I am looking for where (if anywhere) the specification comes out and says
> > that segment "size" is the same as "length." Why isn't the MSS called the MSL
> > after the RFC has gone to such pains to define "length?"
> 
> Why can't a SYN segment be a TCP segment of length 0 ?
> (with one phantom byte)

For it is written,

  segment length
            The amount of sequence number space occupied by a segment,
            including any controls which occupy sequence space.
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  SYN
            A control bit in the incoming segment, occupying one sequence
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
            number, used at the initiation of a connection, to indicate
            ^^^^^^
            where the sequence numbering will start.

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