Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 17:04:01 -0500 From: Jim Bryant <kc5vdj@yahoo.com> To: Joseph Mallett <jmallett@NewGold.NET> Cc: Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>, Jason Vervlied <jvervlied@hway.net>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bash in /usr/local/bin? Message-ID: <3B76FD51.40805@yahoo.com> References: <3B74D180.D036D629@hway.net> <3B75D33D.68368F22@softweyr.com> <3B764D47.6060902@yahoo.com> <20010812152709.A73284@NewGold.NET>
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I said I'd drop it, but apparently there are people that don't understand the dinosaur mentality of certain organizations such as DOD, DISA/DECC, OSD, DARPA, USA, USN, USAF, and USMC. If it's not in the base setup, on a production box, you can't use it. Everything must be kept in it's ORIGINAL install location, otherwise you MUST justify it and ask DISA/DECC for a waiver, which in itself, is a pain in the ass, and in many cases, not likely to happen due to dinosaur mentality. I now refer you to the recent news concerning the TrustedBSD project. FreeBSD is getting military contracts now. We need to think ahead to the needs of a whole new class of admin and user, and they are in highly restrictive environments that preclude `mv /usr/local/bin/*sh /bin`. I'm sure there are equally restrictive environments for computers and operating systems in *EVERY* country, but I speak from my personal experience with the dinosaurs at DOD. At DOD, *EVERY* copy of FreeBSD will be subject to what I am saying. In the Sun environment in which I did my last DOD contract at, if tcsh wasn't in /bin, I wouldn't have been able to use it. That's how backwards they are. In answer to your statement, some admins can be fired, even arrested and brought up on charges for doing what you suggest. I'm certain that this happens in countries other than America as well. Joseph Mallett wrote: > If these admins can't figure out cp `which bash` /bin and then how to add it > to etc/shells and chsh root, then I really question if they should be the kind > of people that dictate the future of FreeBSD. > > 0n Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 04:32:55AM -0500, Jim Bryant wrote: > >>IMHO, all widely accepted shells should be put in /bin jim -- ET has one helluva sense of humor! He's always anal-probing right-wing schizos! _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
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