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Date:      Fri, 07 Sep 2001 23:45:28 +0100
From:      ian j hart <ianjhart@ntlworld.com>
To:        Dave Uhring <duhring@charter.net>
Cc:        Randall Hopper <aa8vb@nc.rr.com>, stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: UDMA ICRC error reading fsb (?)
Message-ID:  <3B994E08.FF3BE9C4@ntlworld.com>
References:  <20010906204356.A4116@nc.rr.com> <auto-000028388966@dc-mx05.cluster1.charter.net> <20010907180403.A1472@nc.rr.com> <auto-000027449537@dc-mx04.cluster1.charter.net>

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Dave Uhring wrote:
> 
> On Friday 07 September 2001 17:04, Randall Hopper wrote:
> > Dave Uhring:
> >  |On Thursday 06 September 2001 07:43 pm, Randall Hopper wrote:
> >  |>      What do these messages mean?  Are CRCs done by the IDE
> >  |> controller on DMA transfers and they're coming up wrong?
> >  |>
> >  |> ad0s2a: UDMA ICRC error writing fsbn 3283483 of 396704-396713
> >  |> (ad0s2 bn 3283483; cn 204 tn 98 sn 49) retrying
> >  |
> >  |Your drive is dying.  Back it up and replace it.

I think you are being a tad premature.

There have been plenty of posts on this subject, both on stable and
hardware. IIRC none of them were bad disks.

Randall,
1) post a copy of dmesg so we can see what hardware you have.
2) measure the cable - M/B to drive.

> >
> > Ok, thanks.  But what do these messages "mean" on a technical level?
> >
> > And could these just as well indicate a marginal cable, bad
> > connector, loose connector, or the other hard drive on the controller
> > being a bit flakey?
> >
> > Randall
> 
> CRC's (16 bit cyclic redundancy check characters) have been done on
> controllers since we had to use floppies.  The first Winchester drive
> interface I ever designed back in 1979 had a Fairchild 9401 (IIRC) CRC
> generator chip on it.  The writes are failing.  You "may" have marginal
> cabling or loose or corroded connectors.
> 
> If you wish to keep using the drive, replace the cable and in doing so
> your contacts will also wipe clean.
> 
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