Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 13:40:07 -0800 From: tipaporiello <tipapori@earthlink.net> To: Cliff Sarginson <cliff@raggedclown.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Teaching parents UNIX Message-ID: <3C2E3837.3020907@earthlink.net> References: <Pine.LNX.4.40.0112282250220.27385-100000@zx750.ninja.com> <02eb01c1902e$69629bd0$fe00a8c0@wskatinka> <20011229122459.GE3776@raggedclown.net>
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Cliff Sarginson wrote:
>On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 02:02:29PM +0800, Kathy Quinlan wrote:
>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Jeffrey" <jeffrey@azstarnet.com>
>>
>>>So while I really don't care if a person defragments their disk, repairs
>>>broken software, uninstalls old software or even updates their drivers. I
>>>do care that they are not maintaining their machine to at least the point
>>>that they are not attacking one of my servers.
>>>
>>Thi sis one of my pet gripes, I think that AV software should be free, as it
>>is fine and dandy for the people with the money to buy it and protect their
>>system, but the people who can not afford it, unknowingly get infected and
>>spread it to the rest of the world, so what some ppl say, I would rather
>>have an AV software that has one hit per day than the current 30 hits I am
>>experiencing, and most of the viri are coming from ppl who either can not
>>afford the fees to get the defs or do not know how to...... Maybe we should
>>insist ppl pass a basic computer course before going on the internet ? ;o)
>>
>There are a couple of points here.
>One since Microsoft software is almost single-handedly responsible for
>the spread of viruses across the globe, which as pointed out above, does
>affect all public services even if they use non-ms software, then
>Microsoft should be responsible enough to give all users of their OS'es
>a lifetime subscription gratis to an anti-viral service.
>
>That will not happen.
>
>Solution 2. People should accept the expense of buying an anti-viral
>agent as being necessary to the safe-keeping of the Internet. What
>happens is that many ISP's give out anti-viral software as part of the
>deal on a 6 month license, and then people never bother to re-new
>their subscription.
>
>Solution 3. ISP's should be held responsible for any of their users who
>spread viruses through non-use of anti-viral agents. They should either
>make it a condition of service, or themselves run a gratis anti-viral
>service.
>
>This is called social-responsibility. Running MS software without active
>anti-viral checking is the technoglogical equivalent of having sex with
>strangers without using a condom.
>
>
I believe we can imagine much more than this. Do you? Social
responsibility also includes not blaming others. I think this is
something our Parents taught us.
--
Timothy Paporiello
mailto:tipapori@earthlink.net
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Cliff Sarginson wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 02:02:29PM +0800, Kathy Quinlan wrote:<br></pre>
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<pre wrap="">----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Jeffrey" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jeffrey@azstarnet.com"><jeffrey@azstarnet.com></a><br><br></pre>
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<pre wrap="">So while I really don't care if a person defragments their disk, repairs<br>broken software, uninstalls old software or even updates their drivers. I<br>do care that they are not maintaining their machine to at least the point<br>that they are not attacking one of my servers.<br></pre>
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<pre wrap="">Thi sis one of my pet gripes, I think that AV software should be free, as it<br>is fine and dandy for the people with the money to buy it and protect their<br>system, but the people who can not afford it, unknowingly get infected and<br>spread it to the rest of the world, so what some ppl say, I would rather<br>have an AV software that has one hit per day than the current 30 hits I am<br>experiencing, and most of the viri are coming from ppl who either can not<br>afford the fees to get the defs or do not know how to...... Maybe we should<br>insist ppl pass a basic computer course before going on the internet ? ;o)<br><br></pre>
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<pre wrap=""><!---->There are a couple of points here.<br>One since Microsoft software is almost single-handedly responsible for<br>the spread of viruses across the globe, which as pointed out above, does<br>affect all public services even if they use non-ms software, then<br>Microsoft should be responsible enough to give all users of their OS'es<br>a lifetime subscription gratis to an anti-viral service.<br><br>That will not happen.<br><br>Solution 2. People should accept the expense of buying an anti-viral<br>agent as being necessary to the safe-keeping of the Internet. What<br>happens is that many ISP's give out anti-viral software as part of the<br>deal on a 6 month license, and then people never bother to re-new<br>their subscription.<br><br>Solution 3. ISP's should be held responsible for any of their users who<br>spread viruses through non-use of anti-viral agents. They should either<br>make it a condition of service, or themselves run a gratis anti-viral<br>ser
vice.<br><br>This is called social-responsibility. Running MS software without active<br>anti-viral checking is the technoglogical equivalent of having sex with<br>strangers without using a condom.<br><br><br></pre>
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I believe we can imagine much more than this. Do you? Social responsibility
also includes not blaming others. I think this is something our Parents
taught us.<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-signature">-- <br>
Timothy Paporiello<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:tipapori@earthlink.net">mailto:tipapori@earthlink.net</a><br>
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