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Date:      Wed, 20 Feb 2002 02:11:51 -0800
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
To:        "Crist J. Clark" <cjc@freebsd.org>
Cc:        chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Interesting Comment about Mac OS X
Message-ID:  <3C737667.7A05B7C9@mindspring.com>
References:  <20020219225335.U48401@blossom.cjclark.org>

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"Crist J. Clark" wrote:
> Interesting remark in the last sentence I quote. I'm sure there are
> elements of NeXt in there, but I don't think that statement is
> accurate. Last I knew, Mac OS X was primarily BSD-based, specifically,
> FreeBSD.

Interestingly, it came down to a difference of $5M in price,
not the reported $75M, where Gassee would not budge, when
Apple was in talks with Be to acquire BeOS (according to
insiders).

Another interesting tidbit here is that the Microsoft EULA
did, at one time, prohibit the use of non-Microsoft boot
blocks when booting a Microsoft OS, or the license was
voided by the user, so they have a small case there.

The "and design an OS the right way. And that is exactly
what they did." comment is, at best, laughable.  The OS
lacks per user credentials, which makes it fairly useless
as a file server, and also fairly useless for multiuser
operation, and also fairly useless as a network client
machine, since there's no barrier point where you could
implement single sign-on (Windows 98 corrected this defect
of Windows 95, which would let you start the task manager
and run the explorer.exe program without logging in through
the credential capture point -- i.e. it was not a barrier).

The reference to NeXTStep is valid: the Mac OS X is a Mach
based system with a BSD UNIX single server on top of it,
just as NeXTStep was.  FreeBSD is the single server, and
provides driver, FS, and other technology.  I can't speak
for whether Aqua or Carbon are derived from the NeXTStep
GUI, but I'd be incredibly surprised if they threw that
code away, after paying $400M for NeXT, Inc..

-- Terry

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