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Date:      Mon, 25 Feb 2002 17:59:36 -0800
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
To:        "Matthew D. Fuller" <fullermd@over-yonder.net>
Cc:        "Jeremy C. Reed" <reed@reedmedia.net>, FreeBSD Chat <chat@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: blocked mail
Message-ID:  <3C7AEC08.223E422C@mindspring.com>
References:  <Pine.LNX.4.43.0202251413410.25937-100000@pilchuck.reedmedia.net> <3C7AC400.B8F3E9FC@mindspring.com> <20020225174520.L47910@over-yonder.net>

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"Matthew D. Fuller" wrote:
> Terry Lambert, and lo! it spake thus:
> >
> > In addition, the MX requirement is often that the sending
> > host be in the MX list for the "MAIL FROM <user@domain>"
> > domain part, or the mail will be refused as a suspicious
> > relay.
> 
> That can't be right.  Incoming MX servers, and outgoing sendmail servers,
> are often different.

Nevertheless, it's a common rule, and it used to be the
default (it's called relay for MX) until the latest
sendmail import; did you read Greg Shapiro's announcement
on the changes?


> > Probably he meant the pre-RFC2821 standard, which is what
> > most mail servers on the In ternet still conform to today,
> > and probably will for a very long time (may Jon Postel's
> > name live forever).
> 
> Now wait just a minute!  You're not allowed to support me after I've
> backed down from a position!   :-p

If a behaviour is not prohibited, it's allowed; if it's
not mandated, then it is not required.

Violates POLA, in that it fails to "be lenient in what
you accept", but really, we're not talking protocol here.

The getpeername/gethostbyaddr/gethostbyname in-addr.arpa
vs. domain registrar two authority concurrance crosscheck
is common practice for anti-spam.  There is, in fact, an
internet draft on it.

-- Terry

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