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Date:      Mon, 01 Apr 2002 20:53:24 -0800
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
To:        Daniel O'Connor <doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
Cc:        Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>, Anthony Atkielski <anthony@atkielski.com>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Anti-Unix Site Runs Unix
Message-ID:  <3CA93944.D72D6AB7@mindspring.com>
References:  <4.3.2.7.2.20020401153352.02b99760@nospam.lariat.org>  <3CA8EB5F.2E91B408@mindspring.com> <1017709221.71119.5.camel@chowder.gsoft.com.au>  <3CA91382.4E4E2B@mindspring.com> <1017714456.71119.20.camel@chowder.gsoft.com.au>

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Daniel O'Connor wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 11:42, Terry Lambert wrote:
> > Whether you like it or not is irrelevent to how much of an
> > installed base it represents vis-avis the current UNIX_using
> > market.
> 
> Not that that particular market is very big in the browsing department..

So bitch at Microsoft for putting up a *web site* to reach them.

> > If you can point me to where to download Galleon for AIX, SCO,
> > and Solaris boxes?
> >
> > ...didn't think so... 8-).
> 
> You can download the source from
> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=6999

Doesn't work on AIX or Solaris.  I haven't tried it on SCO,
mostly because I believe it will be a waste of time to do so.


> You can get Mozilla from http://www.mozilla.org/releases/

I already have Netscape.  You guys were arguing about Netscape
not working, and then you go and point me at Netscape... sheesh.


> GNOME is available at http://www.gnome.org/
> 
> Enjoy.

Sorry, I don't want to invest 6 hours pulling down sources
just to find out I need more sources, until eventually I
have converted whatever OS I am using into Linux.  8-).


> At worst you could just use Mozilla which has releases for Win32, MacOS,
> Linux, AIX, BeOS, BSD/OS, FreeBSD, HPUX, OpenVMS, OS/2, Solaris and
> Tru64. Mozilla is no less stable than Galeon in my experience only
> slower and with slightly fewer features.

I'm pretty sure that Galeon a whole bunch of stuff, plus
the Galeon stuff, to work.  People were complaining about
it on -hackers, just the other day, when it took them 8
hours to pull it down over their 28k modem.

Can you point us at *binary* releases for versious OSs?  For
28k modem users, this puts them in the 1.5 hour range for a
14M download.

PS: UNIX people tend to use UNIX for everything.  This includes
browsing.  It doesn't make a heck of a lot of sense to run some
other OS, if your intent is to not run that OS on your servers,
as well, so a UNIX ship will have UNIX desktops, and they will
probably be the same flavor of UNIX as they have deployed for
their hosting facilities, since it also makes little sense to
have to keep people up to speed on several OSs, rather than,
say, doing useful work.

-- Terry

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