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Date:      Thu, 20 Jun 2002 20:33:13 -0700
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
To:        Lamont Granquist <lamont@scriptkiddie.org>
Cc:        Jason Andresen <jandrese@mitre.org>, "Brandon D. Valentine" <bandix@geekpunk.net>, Darren Pilgrim <dmp@pantherdragon.org>, Evan Dower <evantd@hotmail.com>, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Cyrus vs. UW IMAP (was: Re: I Volunteer)
Message-ID:  <3D129E79.A32431EB@mindspring.com>
References:  <20020620191939.U1870-100000@coredump.scriptkiddie.org>

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Lamont Granquist wrote:
> Cyrus imapd is a real pain in the ass to administer local user accounts
> with though.

You mean that it doesn't integrate well with the UNIX credentials
system.  THe issue here is that Cyrus needs to be able to hook
create/delete actions on accounts, and UNIX fails to provide a
means of doing this.  I look at this as a UNIX deficiency.  You
can actually get around it by using "pw" and utilizing the script
hooks it has.

The easiest real fix for this would be to write a PAM module to
cause the UNIX users to authenticate against the Cyrus database.


> The cyradm program is extremely deficient.

Not a big issue, I think.  Writing scripts to encapsulate it and
be "less deficient" is really very trivial.


> Its great if you
> want to offer people imap e-mail without offering them shell access.  For
> local access, though, there's a higher administrative overhead.  I'm back
> to using the UW imapd even though I know it is a poorer codebase...

I recommend you do not publicize the IP addresses of the servers,
if they are net accessible outside your organization.  8-).

-- Terry

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