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Date:      Fri, 08 Aug 2003 00:40:06 -0700
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
To:        "Daniel C. Sobral" <dcs@tcoip.com.br>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: INET6 in world
Message-ID:  <3F3353D6.183AE6C8@mindspring.com>
References:  <3F2D1713.9060806@liwing.de> <20030803181735.GC6331@cicely12.cicely.de>	<3F2EA5AD.E4C73C6@mindspring.com> <20030804184248.GA41334@crodrigues.org> <3F2F8A5F.A17CABCA@mindspring.com> <3F324AFF.1070104@tcoip.com.br>

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"Daniel C. Sobral" wrote:
> Terry Lambert wrote:
> > He apparently doesn't understand that v6/v4 NATs and proxy servers
> > would let him deploy today ...assuming that the Windows stack was
> > there.
> 
> What do you mean "the Windows stack was there"? XP supports IPv6, as
> long as you install it, so I assume there's something missing *in* XP's
> IPv6 support. What is it?

1)	Machines do not ship with it enabled by default; a
	Windows user has about as much probability of doing
	the necessary work to enable it as they do of making
	something other than Internet Explorer their default
	browser.

2)	You have to go to a command line prompt and issue a
	cryptic command to enable it at all.

3)	When you enable it, you get a huge scare warning about
	it being experimental.

4)	95% of the existing Windows machines in the world are
	not running XP, and the last time I saw the code for
	Windows 95/98 IPv6 support was the Summer of 2000; they
	took it down from their site after that.

5)	AFAIK, it still doesn't support key exchange, so you
	have to manually configure the keys, which is a really
	difficult and tedious process, and won't work with any
	embedded device that depend on key exchange working
	(e.g. thing NAT gateways, etc.).

6)	The last time I tried the "experimental" version, it did
	not correctly interoperate with AIX or FreeBSD, but worked
	fine Windows-to-Windows, so they've done *something* to it
	to embrace and extend it.

In short: "It's not ready for Prime Time".

-- Terry



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