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Date:      Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:28:42 -0600
From:      Chris Wall <chris.wall@cbrworld.com>
To:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Cannot install 5.3 on tyan tiger 133
Message-ID:  <41AB4E3A.5040604@cbrworld.com>
In-Reply-To: <20041129161318.GR12622@crom.vickiandstacey.com>
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Stacey Roberts wrote:

>Hi Chris,
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Chris Wall <chris.wall@cbrworld.com>"
>To: To Stacey Roberts
>Date: Mon, 29 Nov, 2004 15:48 GMT
>Subject: Re: Cannot install 5.3 on tyan tiger 133
>
>  
>
>>Stacey Roberts wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Hi Mark,
>>> 
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Mark Kirkwood <markir@paradise.net.nz>"
>>>To: To freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
>>>Date: Mon, 29 Nov, 2004 07:17 GMT
>>>Subject: Cannot install 5.3 on tyan tiger 133
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Recently I decided to make the switch from 4.x to 5.x, now that 5 has 
>>>>moved to stable. So about a week ago I installed 5.3 on my workstation 
>>>>machine, a Tyan Trinity 400. All went well, so yesterday I decided to do 
>>>>my "server" - a Tyan Tiger 133. Since these shared the same chipset I 
>>>>thought all would go well too.
>>>>
>>>>Not the case, I cannot even boot from the 5.3 cd - the machine hangs or 
>>>>reboots immediately upon trying to boot the (I get a fleeting glance at 
>>>>the drive mappings, that is all). I have verified the checksums on the 
>>>>iso image I used (and the same cd installed the Trinity with no problems)
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>I've got the same problem here on a Tyan Tiger 230 
>>>(http://www.tyan.com/products/html/tiger230.html). As well as with your 
>>>experiences, I can't seem to boot two sets of FreeBSD-5.3 REL CD-ROM sets 
>>>      
>>>
>>>from different suppliers. Here's what I get with any of the 5.3 REL 
>>    
>>
>>>installation cd's:
>>>
>>>Just at the point where you'd expect the /sbin/loader bit to start that 
>>>goes into the FreeBSD boot process, I get lots of (what appears to be hex 
>>>numbers) gibberish scrolling up the screen. Like you I thought that I 
>>>might have a faulty cdrom drive, but swapping in a (sealed) drive produced 
>>>the same results.
>>>
>>>However, the FreeBSD-4.10 REL cd's do appear to "start" working through 
>>>the installation, but then I get lots of errors / warnings as follows:
>>>
>>>acdo: MODE_SENSE_BIG command timeout - resetting
>>>ata1: resetting devices... done
>>>
>>>These scroll up the screen for ages and do not appear to be going anywhere 
>>>- at which point I power down the system.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>This machine was running 4.10, and in case I have a suddenly bad cdrom, 
>>>>I have installed 5.1 (the only other 5.x series I have lying around), 
>>>>which completes fine.
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>I've not got 5.1, but I did try the 5.2.1 CD-ROM Set (from BSDMall) as 
>>>well with the same failure. What I was able to do is successfully install 
>>>MS Windows 2K Pro, 2K Server & Fedora Core-3 on the same hardware over the 
>>>last few hours - in fact, its now running Fedora Core-3 (apparently) 
>>>happily. I've attached the dmesg from the Fedora install for anyone that 
>>>might be intested in what the problem might be.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>
>>>Stacey
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Any ideas?
>>>>
>>>>More detailed specs on the machine:
>>>>
>>>>- Tyan Tiger 133 (S1834 Rev G)
>>>>- 2xPIII 700/100/256 , 2G RAM, Promise TX2000, 2xMaxtor Plus 8 ATA-133 40G
>>>>
>>>>regards
>>>>
>>>>Mark
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>>>>  
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>I didn't have any problems with my Tiger 133, although I am running a 
>>SCSI disk setup.
>>    
>>
>
>I've got only SCSI disks on my system:
>2 x QUANTUM   Model: ATLAS10K3_18_WLS  Rev: 020W
>
>Running off of a Tekram DC-390U3W card:
>sym0:1: FAST-80 WIDE SCSI 160.0 MB/s DT (12.5 ns, offset 62)
>
>Its an SMP set up:
>2 x Intel Pentium III 866:
>Intel machine check architecture supported.
>Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#1.
>CPU1: Intel Pentium III (Coppermine) stepping 0a
>Total of 2 processors activated (3432.44 BogoMIPS).
>ENABLING IO-APIC IRQs
>..TIMER: vector=0x31 pin1=2 pin2=-1
>checking TSC synchronization across 2 CPUs: passed.
>Brought up 2 CPUs
>zapping low mappings.
>
>Keeping in mind that the above output is from Fedora-Core3 built on the same machine early this morning..,
>
>Did you install from FreeBSD-5.3 REL cd's?
>
>Regards,
>
>Stacey
>
>
>  
>
>>Processors 	2
>>Model 	Intel Pentium III
>>Chip MHz 	800 MHz
>>PCI Devices 	agp0: VIA 82C691 (Apollo Pro) host to PCI bridge
>>pcib1: PCI-PCI bridge
>>isab0: PCI-ISA bridge
>>atapci0: VIA 82C596B UDMA66 controller
>>ahc0: Adaptec 2940 Ultra SCSI adapter
>>fxp0: Intel 82558 Pro/100 Ethernet
>>IDE Devices 	/none/
>>SCSI Devices 	cd0: PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-305 1.06
>>da0: IBM DNES-318350W SA30 (Capacity: 17.93 GB)
>>
>>Chris
>>    
>>
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>
Yes, I first upgraded from 5.2, then I did a fresh install from the 
5.3-RELEASE CDs and didn't experence a problem on either method.  I also 
have a Tyan 230T that was talked about in this thread that didn't give 
me any problems either.  Now all I run on this server is a web site, so 
it is base install plus Apache, PHP, etc. - no X or desktops.  I 
remember that there were two types of Tiger 133's one with ISA and one 
without (mine is without ISA slot).
Chris


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