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Date:      Wed, 11 Jan 2006 18:54:56 -0700
From:      Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org>
To:        Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>
Cc:        alan bryan <alanbryan1234@yahoo.com>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, David Leimbach <leimy2k@gmail.com>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD on Intel Macs?
Message-ID:  <43C5B6F0.1050004@samsco.org>
In-Reply-To: <43C5B4B2.9000707@elischer.org>
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Julian Elischer wrote:
> David Leimbach wrote:
> 
>>
>>
>> On 1/11/06, *Julian Elischer* <julian@elischer.org 
>> <mailto:julian@elischer.org>> wrote:
>>
>>     alan bryan wrote:
>>
>>     >I read that the new Intel (x86) Macs use EFI rather
>>     >than the traditional PC Bios to boot up.  I'm
>>     >interested in using one of these to multiboot OS X and
>>     >FreeBSD and am wondering if it is yet known to work or
>>     >not.  Do any changes need to be made to FreeBSD or
>>     >should it work out of the box? Thanks for any insight
>>     >and I know that it may be impossible to fully answer
>>     >until people get their hands on the hardware but I
>>     >just wanted to start thinking about the possibilities.
>>     >
>>     >
>>     well if they can boot Darwin I'm sure they can be hacked to boot
>>     FreeBSD.
>>     It would probabty require a different bootloader binary.
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't see what booting Darwin has to do with booting FreeBSD.
> 
> 
> 
> If they were bastards they could refuse to load anything that wasn't in 
> some format or didn't
> decrypt with some public key. I doubt they wouod do that but since they 
> control the
> horizontal and the vertical they COULD do it.
> 
> It is possible that the boot loader sequence may require a stage that is 
> in some format
> supported by the apple firmware, depending on how wired down they have 
> made it.
> 

Geez, please take off the tinfoil hat.  This has been an FAQ since about
3 seconds after the word 'Intel' escaped Jobs' lips in June.  Apple has
quite clearly stated that they will not do anything to lock down the
hardware from other OS's, just that they won't go out of their way to
support anything other than OSX.

So, repeat after me: "APPLE IS NOT KILLING KITTENS AND CALLING YOUR
MOTHER DIRTY NAMES".  A gold star goes to the first person who boots
FreeBSD on an Intel iMac.

Scott



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