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Date:      Sat, 08 Apr 2006 17:42:13 -0600
From:      Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org>
To:        Ceri Davies <ceri@submonkey.net>
Cc:        hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Using any network interface whatsoever
Message-ID:  <44384A55.2010103@samsco.org>
In-Reply-To: <20060408233740.GA84768@submonkey.net>
References:  <C05CAC06.C0BD%ceri@submonkey.net> <20060407225742.GA21619@odin.ac.hmc.edu> <20060407230247.GH16344@submonkey.net> <4437C9F6.5000008@samsco.org> <20060408233740.GA84768@submonkey.net>

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Ceri Davies wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 08, 2006 at 08:34:30AM -0600, Scott Long wrote:
> 
>>>>On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 11:53:42PM +0100, Ceri Davies wrote:
> 
> 
>>>>>For the filesystem I can use geom_label and /dev/ufs/UnlikelyString, but 
>>>>>I'd
>>>>>also like to have it try to configure whatever interfaces the machine
>>>>>happens to have via DHCP.
>>>>>
>>>>>Other than specifying ifconfig_<if>0="DHCP" once for every possible 
>>>>>value of
>>>>><if>, is there a mechanism to do this already?
>>>>
>>>>ifconfig_DEFAULT
>>
>>Well, the real question is why we force the details of driver names onto 
>>users.  Network and storage drivers are especially guilty of this, but
>>tty devices also are annoying.
> 
> 
> The current situation on BSD, where I can identify which interface is
> meant by its type, is definitely preferable to the Linux situation where
> eth0 may mean something different tomorrow depending on what is plugged
> in.
> 
> Since we can rename devices arbitrarily, I don't really see a problem
> with respect to anything else.
> 
> Ceri

I'll say again, how does having em0, em1, em2, and em3 help me know what
is going on with each of those interfaces?

Scott



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