Date: Fri, 05 May 2006 12:47:31 -0600 From: Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org> To: Mike Jakubik <mikej@rogers.com> Cc: stable@freebsd.org, Pawel Jakub Dawidek <pjd@freebsd.org>, Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com>, Robert Watson <rwatson@freebsd.org>, Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>, David Kirchner <dpk@dpk.net> Subject: Re: quota deadlock on 6.1-RC1 Message-ID: <445B9DC3.8070208@samsco.org> In-Reply-To: <445B991F.3050600@rogers.com> References: <4457A02C.9040408@rogers.com> <20060503110503.O58458@fledge.watson.org> <35c231bf0605031821s582b6d03j3ee9d434a596f62a@mail.gmail.com> <20060504021908.GA714@soaustin.net> <35c231bf0605032011s65fbb1aby742438465ee98ee7@mail.gmail.com> <20060504033300.GA39935@xor.obsecurity.org> <44598615.3040400@rogers.com> <20060504044758.GA41047@xor.obsecurity.org> <44599732.1050905@rogers.com> <20060505080543.GD5466@garage.freebsd.pl> <35c231bf0605051049t2761281ar97b9634b8279b1fd@mail.gmail.com> <445B991F.3050600@rogers.com>
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Mike Jakubik wrote: > This quota/nve problem sure stirred things up, i guess im partly to > blame, but anyway i think that it all boils down to is this; FreeBSD > users now demand stability and performance, as opposed to an influx of > new bells and whistles just before the release. FreeBSD already has many > great features which we are happy with, but they need to be refined now. > Stabilize and optimize the current code, then focus on new ideas. Yes, > new features are important to stay in the game, but they should not > arrive at the sacrifice of stability. I think FreeBSD should only be > released when known major bugs are worked out. A known broken release to > me and most new users is useless, lets not release simply for the sake > of numbering. I understand that there are problems, sometimes the users > are to blame, other the developer, but we all want a stable, functional > and thriving OS (i hope). > > I wish i was a good Unix C programmer myself, so i could contribute in a > more direct way (always hated those damn pointers), but thats just not > the case. However i think i have contributed quite a bit in other areas, > that may not be visible to everyone. I even managed to get the first > (afaik) FreeBSD server in to FedEx, which they are very pleased with > btw. I don't mean to offend anyone, i fully understand that this is a > volunteer project and i appreciate everyones contribution, its just that > i think FreeBSD has some problems currently, and there are quite a few > people that are concerned. We all love and want FreeBSD to succeed. > Please contact me privately with a list of issues on the 6.1 TODO list that are presently affecting you, and I will personally resolve them for you. Scott
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