Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 00:39:47 +0200 From: "M.Hirsch" <M.Hirsch@hirsch.it> To: Dmitry Pryanishnikov <dmitry@atlantis.dp.ua> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.x CVSUP today crashes with zero load ... Message-ID: <44A06233.1090704@hirsch.it> In-Reply-To: <20060627011512.N95667@atlantis.atlantis.dp.ua> References: <E1FuYsL-000HT3-H2@dilbert.firstcallgroup.co.uk> <20060626100949.G24406@fledge.watson.org> <20060626081029.L1114@ganymede.hub.org> <20060626140333.M38418@fledge.watson.org> <20060626235355.Q95667@atlantis.atlantis.dp.ua> <44A04FD2.1030001@hirsch.it> <20060627011512.N95667@atlantis.atlantis.dp.ua>
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Dmitry Pryanishnikov schrieb: > > Hello! > > On Mon, 26 Jun 2006, M.Hirsch wrote: > >> ECC is a way to mask broken hardware. I rather have my hardware fail >> directly when it does first, so I can replace it _immediately_ > > > You got it backwards. If your data has any value to you, then you > don't want > to miss any single-error bit in it, do you? If you're running hardware > w/o > ECC, your single-bit error in your data will go to the disk unnoticed, > and you'll lose your data. With ECC, hardware will correct it. In > (rare) case of multiple-bit error ECC logic will generate NMI for you, > so you'll notice and "replace it _immediately_" instead of two weeks > ago when your archive wont extract. > Nope, I am right on track. I do not want to lose any data. So I'd prefer a ECC error to raise a panic so I can replace the hardware ASAP. Don't get me wrong, but tracking bugs in FreeBSD is quite more of an effort than "just" akquiring a new box... >> What's your hardware good for if it passes a "test", but fails in >> production? > > > It's the way in what RAM will manifest single-bit errors: you run > memory test - it won't catch them, later in production you'll miss > this error because > nothing will provide extra sanity check of your data. Ok... Does the standard fs, UFS2, do "extra sanity checks", then? M.help
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