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Date:      Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:01:50 +0200
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Chris Marlatt <cmarlatt@rxsec.com>
Cc:        Jo Rhett <jrhett@netconsonance.com>, Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org>, FreeBSD Stable <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: challenge: end of life for 6.2 is premature with buggy 6.3
Message-ID:  <4847FFDE.8000209@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <4847FB1D.1050400@rxsec.com>
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Chris Marlatt wrote:
> Kris Kennaway wrote:
>> Chris Marlatt wrote:
>>> Kris Kennaway wrote:
>>>> Jo Rhett wrote:
>>>>> On Jun 4, 2008, at 11:39 AM, Kris Kennaway wrote:
>>>>>> Also, it's not like anyone should have been caught by surprise by
>>>>>> the 6.2 EoL; the expiry date has been advertised since the 6.2
>>>>>> release itself.
>>>>>
>>>>> It has changed multiple times.  I keep reviewing and finding 6.3
>>>>> bugs outstanding, and then observe the EoL get pushed.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm surprised that it failed to get pushed this time.
>>>>>
>>>> I'm sorry that the FreeBSD project failed to conform to your
>>>> expectations.  However, I invite you to actually try 6.3 for yourself
>>>> instead of assuming that it will fail.
>>>>
>>>> Kris
>>> In an effort to potentially find a compromise between those who
>>> believe FreeBSD is EoL'ing previous releases too quickly and those who
>>> don't. Have those in a position to set FreeBSD release schedules
>>> debated the option of setting a long term support release, a specific
>>> release picked by the team to be support for,.. 4 or 5 years? Other
>>> projects have done this will relative success and considering the
>>> "only" work required for this release would be security patches the
>>> work load should be minimized. Hopefully something like this could
>>> free up more time for the FreeBSD developers to continue their work on
>>> the newer release(s) while still answering the requests of what seems
>>> like quite a few of the legacy FreeBSD users. Thoughts?
>>>
>>> If this has already been discussed on-list I apologize for beating a
>>> dead horse but I can't recall it bring brought up before.
>> Uh yeah, this has been in place for *years*.  Have you actually read the
>> support announcements?  They are public ;)
>>
>> Kris
> 
> I do actually - and when was the last release that was support for such
> a duration of time,.. 4.11? As of recent the longest I've seen has been
> 24 months with others being only 12.

Yes, and this is the FreeBSD definition of "long term support".  Don't 
like it?  Do something about it.

Kris


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