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Date:      Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:58:28 +0200
From:      Guido Falsi <mad@madpilot.net>
To:        Dan Allen <danallen46@airwired.net>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Steven Hartland <killing@multiplay.co.uk>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD 7.1 Content
Message-ID:  <48BF1694.9010108@madpilot.net>
In-Reply-To: <E124BB77-FE02-43F3-8559-ED093BBE6E65@airwired.net>
References:  <35445338-D597-4FE2-996F-DEC7BE986741@airwired.net><48BEEB55.4050406@madpilot.net>	<E3C0561D-9BFA-46CD-B624-0CE49549AF2C@airwired.net>	<AE7A8BD44E184FE888764DA8480FAEBC@multiplay.co.uk> <E124BB77-FE02-43F3-8559-ED093BBE6E65@airwired.net>

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Dan Allen wrote:
> 
> On 3 Sep 2008, at 3:11 PM, Steven Hartland wrote:
> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Allen" <danallen46@airwired.net>
>>
>>> I too spend the time.  I am thinking that for other people to want 
>>> to  use FreeBSD they want something other than a command prompt.  
>>> They at  least want a web browser out of the box.
>>
>> For some, but for others like ourselves here we really don't want all
>> that bloat. One of the reasons we really like it is its perfect for
>> server installs, no crap installed that you don't want :)
> 
> Agreed, but if you go back to earlier versions of FreeBSD they gave you 
> an install option for just binaries, or binaries + sources, or binaries 
> + sources + X Windows.

Last time I installed from CD (I have made some manual installs from 
livefs lately because this gives me more options for disk 
layouts(gjournal/gmirror for example) ) there was an option to install X 
and other ports. Never used it though.

> 
> I am proposing something similar once again, but this time if would be 
> enough of X, a small window manager, and Firefox so a basic windowing 
> environment was able to be installed, from the CD, with a single 
> choice.  I doubt many developers are really browsing the web all day 
> with lynx.
> 

The choice is there I think, It just requires you to swap CDs. It's of 
little use to newbies though, you still need to customize rc.conf and 
other bits.

Also, FreeBSD is still a little download compared to other systems. I 
would not like to download a multiGB distribution when what I need is 
just base system + sources, to build everything up from there.

-- 
Guido Falsi <mad@madpilot.net>



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