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Date:      Wed, 24 Dec 2008 17:26:02 +0000
From:      Bruce Simpson <bms@incunabulum.net>
To:        Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Qing Li <qingli@freebsd.org>, Hartmut Brandt <hartmut.brandt@dlr.de>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, "Li, Qing" <qing.li@bluecoat.com>, freebsd-net@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: NATM hardware available
Message-ID:  <495270AA.3010904@incunabulum.net>
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.1.10.0812241712520.69270@fledge.watson.org>
References:  <55f001c9639d$875f14ec$7202020a@internal.cacheflow.com> <4950F770.3090700@dlr.de> <B583FBF374231F4A89607B4D08578A4302A8BCC4@bcs-mail03.internal.cacheflow.com> <495165D8.2070409@dlr.de> <495246C9.9090305@incunabulum.net> <alpine.BSF.1.10.0812241712520.69270@fledge.watson.org>

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Robert Watson wrote:
> ...
> Do we have any of the necessary software parts to do simulated ATM 
> hardware similar to what if_tap does for Ethernet?  Using the VIMAGE 
> stuff and virtual ATM hardware might open up the door to a more 
> accessible development and test environment.  I did the NATM locking 
> work essentially "blind" due to a lack of test environment locally, 
> which seemed to work out, but a software test system would go a long way.

Loopback would be possible, sure, but you are probably only going to be 
able to simulate looped-back PVCs.
Fortunately, the ITU G.DMT mandated use of ATM for xDSL generally only 
uses PVCs.

But for SVCs, forget about it.

The really cute thing about ATM always was :
     the ATM Forum made end-station specs relatively freely available --
    but, like X.25, the machinations of switching were left up to the 
vendors.

ATM switch simulation is "another project entirely".

cheers
BMS


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