Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 14:28:09 -0400 From: "Mikhail T." <mi+thun@aldan.algebra.com> To: Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: net-booting the install disks (Re: 8.x grudges) Message-ID: <4C3618B9.8010202@aldan.algebra.com> In-Reply-To: <20100708164022.GA46433@icarus.home.lan> References: <4C34C5DE.7040007@aldan.algebra.com> <AANLkTil1jtcgOV5c5rLQabS2kJ2DA09haRY3VB0bgA8x@mail.gmail.com> <4C34CA31.7010804@aldan.algebra.com> <AANLkTimQFCxQpCx32dxvYscGspUkqyRbyPE_ru8RS5My@mail.gmail.com> <4C34E39A.7090905@aldan.algebra.com> <20100708135353.GA43460@icarus.home.lan> <4C35E9D4.8080007@aldan.algebra.com> <20100708164022.GA46433@icarus.home.lan>
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08.07.2010 12:40, Jeremy Chadwick написав(ла): >>> set vfs.root.mountfrom="ufs:/dev/md0" >>> > >boot >>> >> > Yes, that works... It just should not be necessary. >> > Okay, so let me get this straight. First the complaint was that you had > to modify loader.conf, which involved extracting the CD image, editing > the file, yadda yadda. Now that you've been shown you don't have to > edit loader.conf, the complaint is "it shouldn't be necessary".:-) > No, I initially complained, that I had to fiddle with loader's options at boot-time (item 8 -- instead of setting mountfrom, I set init to sysinstall -- don't recall the exact syntax). You then claimed, that you /can't reproduce/ my problem -- and referred me to your instructions <http://jdc.parodius.com/freebsd/pxeboot_serial_install_8.html>; (nice ones, BTW, even for those, who don't need serial-port install), where you explain, how to perform the install via netboot. I pointed out, that your recipe is not a valid counter-example, because -- instead of fiddling with loader's options at boot-time, you fiddle with the loader.conf (and have to extract the entire CD/DVD-image to do that one-line change). One way or the other, some -- very minor -- manual changes are required... It is, of course, an accepted fact, that installing (or upgrading) an OS would require fiddling, but this particular little aspect can be eliminated, I think... > The bottom line: the PXE booting framework in FreeBSD could be improved. > Even Randi would agree with this point, I think. I perfectly understand -- and am not complaining -- about substantial work not done in any particular area. It is the little things, that could've been done with negligible /marginal/ cost, that are my target. RedHat's "kickstart <http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-7.3-Manual/custom-guide/ch-kickstart2.html>" can do an entire install based on pre-configured rules. Implementing something like that for FreeBSD would, probably, take quite a bit of effort. But being able to just boot straight into install from a CD (or CD-image) across the LAN doesn't seem very complicated, considering, how close we already are... Yes, it is important to me. No, I can not do it myself. I do, what I can in my area of expertise. If this area is not being improved for lack of time/resources, then fine... But I don't think, that's the case, for it seems to me, that the developers, who can do this little improvement, simply don't see a need for it. Yours, -mi
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