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Date:      Thu, 19 Aug 2010 17:24:10 -0400
From:      jhell <jhell@DataIX.net>
To:        Ivan Voras <ivoras@freebsd.org>
Cc:        bapt@freebsd.org, Florent Thoumie <flz@freebsd.org>, Julien Laffaye <jlaffaye@freebsd.org>, David Forsythe <dforsyth@freebsd.org>, Garrett Cooper <gcooper@freebsd.org>, Tim Kientzle <kientzle@freebsd.org>, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: what next for the pkg_install rewrite
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On 08/19/2010 12:50, Ivan Voras wrote:
> - Fully specify and separate package name from its version - metadata
> should not record "apache-2.2.13" but "apache", "2.2.13" to better
> support upgrading and dependancies.
> - Debian-like dependancies - the "suggests" variety, as well as
> "ranged-dependancies" - package X depends on Y versions W through Z.
> - A wrapper for all pkg_ tools to use, implemented with libarchive.
> This wrapper would allow preparation of the whole archive layout
> in-memory, together with simulating  common file system operations
> like chmod, chown, rmdir, mkdir, rename, unlink, etc. and would as a
> last step offer to serialize this virtual file system to an archive.
> - Policy to forbid the lazy-maintainer dances with package names, such
> as package names depending on config flags used, etc. - this probably
> needs more thinking through. Essentially, I want to avoid things like
> what happened to the apr port - names like
> "apr-ipv6-devrandom-gdbm-db42-1.4.2.9.3.1_1"


	Adding to this I would like to see a central database created for
packages that have been removed like in Slackware Linux. They keep a
file in /var/log/preserved_packages with a flat text format with the
file name looking like:

${PORTNAME}-${PORTVERSION}${PORTREVISION}-`date +%Y%m%d%H%M%S`

	With the contents being that of all the actions that were performed
upon package removal & and any output from errors etc.

	Id like to see that same approach achieved within /var/db/preserved or
something similiar for a suggestion.

	I have attached a copy of removepkg from Slackware 13.1 that appears to
be a 1 clause BSD license ;) for reference.


	As well I would also like to see something done about packages that
don't need to be upgraded because they are neither platform or arch
dependent but yet they are upgraded due to being listed as a dependent
of another port that needs to be upgraded. For example any package that
may be type shell script does not need updating due to a major lib
version bump of for say libpng.


Regards,

-- 

 jhell,v

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