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Date:      Tue, 05 Jul 2011 10:37:43 +0200
From:      Michael Fuckner <michael@fuckner.net>
To:        gerrit.kuehn@aei.mpg.de
Cc:        freebsd-fs@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Are thumpers still interesting in 2011 ? (raidz3 on x4500 @ 3.0gbps ...)
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On 07/05/2011 10:10 AM, Gerrit Kühn wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Jul 2011 09:54:50 +0200 Michael Fuckner <michael@fuckner.net>
> wrote about Re: Are thumpers still interesting in 2011 ? (raidz3 on x4500
> @ 3.0gbps ...):
> 
> MF> LSI 9211-8i- but I don't know anything about the price.
> 
> Something around 200,-€ as far as I can see. This boils down to more than
> 20,-€/disk which is about twice the price of a cheap LSI1068 card (around
> 11,-€/disk).
Of Course 3GBit is cheaper than 6GBit- 6GBit is new.

> If you build machines with 24, 36 or even more disks, this
> can become quite an issue.
if you have so many disks I would recommend a chassis with expander
Backplane (like Supermicro 846E16). You have 4x6GBit to the backplane
which should be enough even if you connect 24 HDD.


> MF> Integrated Raid is currently not supported, but they work as HBA with
> MF> 8.2-STABLE.
> 
> I guess the integrated raid is the problem when it comes to the price. I'm
> looking for something without integrated raid, which is usually much
> cheaper. Thanks for the hint, anyway.
LSI 3081E-R can also do integrated raid as well- 3801E with external
connectors can't do this because of the missing NVRAM Chip. IMHO
integrated raid it is supported in FreeBSD.

Regards,
 Michael!


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