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Date:      Fri, 09 Sep 2011 19:05:49 +0200
From:      Matthias Andree <matthias.andree@gmx.de>
To:        freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: sysutils/cfs
Message-ID:  <4E6A476D.7090800@gmx.de>
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Am 09.09.2011 11:09, schrieb Conrad J. Sabatier:
> On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 18:54:36 +0200
> Matthias Andree <mandree@freebsd.org> wrote:
> 
>> Am 08.09.2011 13:52, schrieb Matt Burke:
>>
>>> I want machines, tools, to do as *I* say not the other way round,
>>> whether it's good for me or not. If I wanted nannying and
>>> interference, I'd install Ubuntu.
>>
>> No, you'd use a managed installation.  Nobody stands there pointing a
>> gun at your head and forces you to uninstall a port that got removed
>> from the ports/ tree.  If people could recognize that, it might help
>> get the derailed discussion back on the right track.
> 
> You fail to take into account the case where a port may need to be
> reinstalled.  An extraordinary effort is required if the port no longer
> exists in the ports tree.

If a "port may need to be reinstalled" then you failed organize proper
backups.  Not a valid point here.

> Frankly, I'm growing increasingly concerned that this push to
> eliminate ports is getting out of control.  I don't much care for the
> notion that, having invested the time in installing, configuring and
> tuning a certain set of software packages, suddenly the rug could be
> pulled out from under me, so to speak, in essence *forcing* me to
> abandon using certain packages or else deal with maintaining them (in
> the ports maintainer sense) on my own.

The rug is pulled by the upstream maintainers abandoning their software,
not by FreeBSD no longer packaging it years after the fact.


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