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Date:      Wed, 07 Sep 2011 00:07:03 -0700
From:      perryh@pluto.rain.com
To:        dougb@freebsd.org
Cc:        ports@freebsd.org, jhs@berklix.com, utisoft@gmail.com
Subject:   Re: sysutils/cfs
Message-ID:  <4e671817.ddHMkPbq9dJ7tLMz%perryh@pluto.rain.com>
In-Reply-To: <4E6581E2.1060502@FreeBSD.org>
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Doug Barton <dougb@freebsd.org> wrote:

> >>>>> Better to deprecate such non urgent ports, & wait a while
> >>>>> after next release is rolled, to give release users a warning
> >>>>> & some time to volunteer ...
> >>
> >> That's an interesting idea, but incredibly unlikely to happen.
> > 
> > It _certainly_ won't happen if those in charge refuse to try it!
>
> My point was that the idea is impractical. I was trying to be polite.

How is it impractical to, as a rule, set an expiration date based
on an anticipated future release date rather than only a month or
two out from when the decision is made?  (Note that this is in no
way exclusive with setting FORBIDDEN, and/or making an entry in the
portaudit database, immediately upon discovering a vulnerability.)

> > My *guess* is that "the largest percentage of our users" are what
> > Julian calls "release users" -- those who install a release and
> > corresponding ports, and don't touch it subsequently until they
> > become aware of a problem.  They _may_ follow the security branch
> > for their base release, but that won't make them aware of issues
> > that have turned up in ports. 
>
> For security issues we have portaudit to handle this.

Provided it is installed and activated.  Perhaps it should be made
into a part of the ports infrastructure, or even moved into the
base, so as to be present on any machine having packages installed?


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