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Date:      Fri, 02 Nov 2012 19:17:36 +0100
From:      Bas Smeelen <b.smeelen@ose.nl>
To:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: [patch proposal typo corrected] Re: SU+J on 9.1-RC2 ISO
Message-ID:  <50940E40.3090709@ose.nl>
In-Reply-To: <50940C20.3090409@ose.nl>
References:  <5093F934.7050306@ose.nl> <5093FD3D.3080201@ateamsystems.com> <1351876381.2657.1.camel@mjakubik.localdomain> <50940276.5030306@ateamsystems.com> <50940C20.3090409@ose.nl>

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On 11/02/2012 07=3A08 PM=2C Bas Smeelen wrote=3A
=3E On 11/02/2012 06=3A27 PM=2C Adam Strohl wrote=3A
=3E=3E On 11/3/2012 0=3A13=2C Mike Jakubik wrote=3A
=3E=3E=3E You can disable SU+J after installing=2C though it would be nice=
 if the
=3E=3E=3E installer gave you a choice=2E
=3E=3E This assumes that you know about this flaw=2C which most people do n=
ot=2E
=3E=3E
=3E=3E I didn=27t until I discovered it by panic-ing a perfectly fine runni=
ng
=3E=3E server=2E  Getting burned by a known bug like this shouldn=27t be=20=
=22SOP=22
=3E=3E for users of FreeBSD=2E
=3E=3E
=3E=3E If anything it should be turned off by default=2C and people can tur=
n it
=3E=3E on if they want given the landmine it plants=2E  If they know how to=

=3E=3E turn it on they=27re much more likely to be aware of the issue=2E
=3E=3E
=3E=3E

Sorry for the spam=2E
Also since newer systems will be installing more and more on SSD it is=20=

better to default SU+J to off as I understand from the original source=2E=

Cheers

=3E Hi all
=3E
=3E I am not sure if this is the right place=2C but would like to propose t=
his
=3E patch
=3E root=40sys=3A/usr/src/usr=2Esbin/bsdinstall/partedit =23 diff -p gpart=
=5Fops=2Ec
=3E gpart=5Fops=2Ecnew
=3E *** gpart=5Fops=2Ec    Mon Aug  6 01=3A54=3A33 2012
=3E --- gpart=5Fops=2Ecnew    Fri Nov  2 19=3A02=3A43 2012
=3E *************** newfs=5Fcommand=28const char *fstype=2C char *
=3E *** 90=2C97 ****
=3E                 =7B=22SU=22=2C =22Softupdates=22=2C
=3E                     =22Enable softupdates =28default=29=22=2C 1 =7D=2C=

=3E                 =7B=22SUJ=22=2C =22Softupdates journaling=22=2C
=3E !                 =22Enable file system journaling =28default - =22
=3E !                 =22turn off for SSDs=29=22=2C 1 =7D=2C
=3E                 =7B=22TRIM=22=2C =22Enable SSD TRIM support=22=2C
=3E                     =22Enable TRIM support=2C useful on solid-state dri=
ves=22=2C
=3E                     0 =7D=2C
=3E --- 90=2C97 ----
=3E                 =7B=22SU=22=2C =22Softupdates=22=2C
=3E                     =22Enable softupdates =28default=29=22=2C 1 =7D=2C=

=3E                 =7B=22SUJ=22=2C =22Softupdates journaling=22=2C
=3E !                 =22Disable file system journaling =28default - =22
=3E !                 =22turn on for adventurish admins=29=22=2C 0 =7D=2C=

=3E                 =7B=22TRIM=22=2C =22Enable SSD TRIM support=22=2C
=3E                     =22Enable TRIM support=2C useful on solid-state dri=
ves=22=2C
=3E                     0 =7D=2C
=3E
=3E If OK I will file a PR
=3E Cheers
=3E Bas
=3E
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