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Date:      Tue, 08 Oct 2013 07:46:37 +0800
From:      Julian Elischer <julian@freebsd.org>
To:        Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>
Cc:        "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon@orthanc.ca>
Subject:   Re: rcs is gone?
Message-ID:  <525347DD.5090702@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <CAJ-Vmo=PrgLWj2TiD8L8g7cx13yzrBYwA8Wt%2B3mVRCRS8f7YXw@mail.gmail.com>
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On 10/8/13 7:37 AM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Then you and others should stand up and provide feedback like this far, far
> earlier in the development process.

Adiran this is the first I've heard of removing RCS.

I would have screamed about it had I heard anything..

so now that I officially register my request for a backout
can we have it back please?


>
> If everyone who communicates says "x" and no-one says anything about the
> other letters "a"->"w", "y", "z", then we as developers don't really have a
> good cross-section of what people actually need.
>
> If you truely are doing things that require this level of service(s), then
> I encourage you to contact the FreeBSD Foundation and communicate exactly
> what your requirements are and why. They'll be able to steer things.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> -adrian
>
>
>
> On 7 October 2013 16:00, Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon@orthanc.ca> wrote:
>
>> On 2013-10-07, at 3:45 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon@orthanc.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> Having RCS in the base system is very useful.  We use it to track
>> changes to bits of /etc on the machines where we don't do wholesale
>> customizations.  (Those ones get git, but they also get an install of
>> /usr/ports with a fully populated /usr/ports/distfiles.)
>>
>> To clarify, the git-enabled machines are a small isolated subset of the
>> development machines.  Then comes the test and q/a environment, where we
>> (by contract) roll nothing beyond the base OS and our application software.
>>
>> There are other development shops dealing with the same restrictions.
>>   Most of them have to stay quiet about these requirements on account of the
>> Homeland Security.  They are all getting buggered over by the fallacy that
>> everyone has a gigabit ethernet connection permanently wired into their ass
>> ...
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