Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 18:38:11 +0800 From: by <free7by@yahoo.com> To: Johan Bucht <jbucht@gmail.com> Cc: "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>, Erich Dollansky <erich@alogt.com> Subject: Re: Something related to C and C++ Message-ID: <5326D093.90308@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <CABze5AD6STPLfriTJJazM%2BqhHJkVtBMgMzNWsQi%2B6vMkWox_0g@mail.gmail.com> References: <B2051FAA-63AA-4F96-90BA-84157CE1F7AB@yahoo.com> <20140317103830.53c42ade@X220.alogt.com> <611B8DE5-F593-4574-96AB-0965CA7EDF33@yahoo.com> <CABze5AD6STPLfriTJJazM%2BqhHJkVtBMgMzNWsQi%2B6vMkWox_0g@mail.gmail.com>
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Yes, you are right, i have some prejudice for C++ before, but now, i think i won't, cause if i have not deeply working for some languages, technologies, i have no right to judge it, i need more and more practice : ) Different fields got different technologies, the only key i think is that which field you prefer, and what kind of technology you prefer. - by On 2014/3/17 17:14, Johan Bucht wrote: > Working in higher level languages like Java, Ruby, Python and C++ does have > some advantages to C and some disadvantages. There are always trade offs > and there will always be languages closer to the domain that will be more > elegant to solve specific problems. > If you're mainly doing programming close to the hardware the abstractions > from those higher level languages doesn't add much value and the runtime > with garbage collection and more is something you probably need to be able > to turn off. > It's of course possible to implement a lot of the features in higher level > languages in lower level ones, but the syntax will not be that suitable for > it and you need to impose restrictions on yourself instead of the language > doing it for you. > For some tasks C is too high level and Assembler is needed but for most of > the tasks any language will do and it's a matter of personal taste. > > /Johan > > On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 3:50 AM, by <free7by@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Well, I think C++'s popular has something related to C's popular use, but >> it contains too much, I prefer simple tool, do one thing, and do it well, >> no more extras, and build a system with their combinations, at least the >> base system. >> >> - by >> >>> On Mar 17, 2014, at 10:38, Erich Dollansky <erich@alogt.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 10:20:55 +0800 >>> by <free7by@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>> as C++ is C plus 'some' extras, just start with C. When you know C - >>> which you have to know anyway to write C++ programs - you can add C++ >>> to your knowledge. >>> >>> Never forget that object orientated programming is much older than C++ >>> and can be done in most languages. I did my first steps in object >>> orientated programming in 8080 assembler without even knowing that >>> what I did will be later be known as object orientated programming. >>> >>> The little programming I still do is all done in C but using some of >>> the 'addons' of C++. So, all my sources are .cpp files. >>> >>> Erich >>>> Hi, >>>> At first, I would say, I do not want to lead to a holy war between >>>> programming languages, and I am a newbie in this field, but I am >>>> confused about this, so I want get some answers or discusses from >>>> here to help me thinking about this. I found that in IT industry, C++ >>>> has more and more users, I can understand why they do this, C++ can >>>> make them build system more easy than C does. okay, I just know a >>>> little about C++, but in my feeling, C++ can make you do things in a >>>> higher place. Yes, C++ is great, but for me, it is too difficult, or >>>> I would say, it is too complicated. I got two books in my hand, one >>>> is <<The C Programming Language>>, another is <<The C++ Programming >>>> Language>>. Just consider from the weight : ) You can find something. >>>> Language>>In the past, GCC use C, but now it turn to C++, and LLVM is >>>> Language>>written by C++. Yes I prefer C now, and you may say, you >>>> Language>>have not use these two languages deeply, how could you >>>> Language>>judge them? Yes, I know I should not judge them, but as a >>>> Language>>newbie, this is my very feeling, just like a kid first >>>> Language>>looking at this world! Simple, but confused. At last, I am >>>> Language>>not lead to a holy war between programming languages, I >>>> Language>>just confused and want some related answers. This is it. : ) >>>> >>>> - by >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>> "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
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