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Date:      Sat, 18 Oct 2014 15:32:16 -0400
From:      Allan Jude <allanjude@freebsd.org>
To:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ssh None cipher
Message-ID:  <5442C040.4090200@freebsd.org>
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On 2014-10-18 13:21, Freddie Cash wrote:
> On Oct 18, 2014 3:54 AM, "Mark Martinec" <Mark.Martinec+freebsd@ijs.si>=

> wrote:
>>
>> If the purpose of having a none cipher is to have a fast
>> file transfer, then one should be using  sysutils/bbcp
>> for that purposes. Uses ssd for authentication, and
>> opens unencrypted channel(s) for the actual data transfer.
>> It's also very fast, can use multiple TCP streams.
>=20
> That's an interesting alternative to rsync, scp, and ftp, but doesn't h=
elp
> with zfs send/recv which is where the none cipher really shines.
>=20
> Without the none cipher, SSH becomes the bottleneck limiting transfers =
to
> around 400 Mbps on a gigabit LAN. With the none cipher, the network bec=
omes
> the bottleneck limiting transfers to around 920 Mbps on the same gigabi=
t
> LAN.
>=20
> This is between two 8-core AMD Opteron 6200 systems using igb(4) NICs.
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>=20

Actually, looking into it, the bbcp command can support a pipe at each
end instead of files, so you can actually do a zfs send | zfs receive
via bbcp, and use multiple concurrent connections, to get around TCP
window stuff when going transatlantic

I am going to be trying it out shortly.

Note: the other big improvement in newer ssh is the HPN stuff, that is
switched on since 9.2 I think.

--=20
Allan Jude


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